This time, we have a very special episode I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose. We cover 2025 predictions, AI, Bitcoin, aliens, fitness goals, and much, much more.
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Want to hear the last time KevKev and I did a Random Show? Listen to our conversation here in which we discussed Kevin’s Jess Mascetti tattoo, vampire facials, publishing strategies, romance versus radical planning, hasty oral hygiene, the mysteries of mimetic contagion, Kevin’s AI-powered investment advisor experiment, Dena Dubal’s Alzheimer’s treatment breakthrough, how small expectations for a medium turned large, and much more.
What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.
SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Connect with Kevin Rose:
Website | Instagram | Twitter | Threads | Bluesky
- How Do They Celebrate Christmas in Hawaii? | Island Essence
- Apple Honors 2024 App Store Award Winners | Apple
- AI Makes Pictures Too Perfect, Even for a Fashion Magazine | PetaPixel
- Deadpool & Wolverine | Prime Video
- Hugh Jackman on Best Decisions, Daily Routines, The 85% Rule, Favorite Exercises, Mind Training, and Much More | The Tim Ferriss Show #444
- Rowing Machine Model D | Concept2
- The Lie of Traditional Strength Training: Why I Moved On | Nsima Inyang
- The Spinal Engine by Serge Gracovetsky | Amazon
- Chuck Norris Flexmaster II Ad | Tumblr
- How to Fight Sarcopenia (Muscle Loss Due to Aging) | Healthline
- The Secrets of Gymnastic Strength Training | The Tim Ferriss Show #158
- The Secrets of Gymnastic Strength Training, Part Two: Home Equipment, Weighted Stretches, and Muscle-Ups | The Tim Ferriss Show #180
- Royal Dansk Danish Cookie Selection | Amazon
- The Pros and Cons of Training to Failure | The Output by Peloton
- The 4-Hour Body: An Uncommon Guide to Rapid Fat Loss, Incredible Sex, and Becoming Superhuman by Timothy Ferriss | Amazon
- It’s True. It Works. | Occam’s Protocol
- Free Weights vs. Machine Weights? Here’s How to Choose | GoodRx
- Iliolumbar Ligament | Physiopedia
- Evaluating the Safety and Efficacy of Mesenchymal Stem Cells in the Treatment of Low Back Pain | Mayo Clinic
- Friction Massage | Physiopedia
- Scienlodic Gua Sha Massage Tool | Amazon
- What Are Vampire Facial and PRP Treatments? | Allure
- The Beginner’s Gear Guide for Ski Touring or Skinning | Business Insider
- Low-Intensity Continuous Ultrasound Therapies (LICUS) — A Systematic Review of Current State-of-the-Art and Future Perspectives | Journal of Clinical Medicine
- Is There Any Evidence That Low Intensity Continuous Ultrasound Helps with Tissue Remodeling? | Consensus
- Repatha: Uses, Dosage, and Side Effects | Drugs.com
- VO2 Max: How to Measure and Improve It | Cleveland Clinic
- The 4-Hour Body Tools and Resources | Tim Ferriss
- Functional Cable Chops and Lifts | Meauxtion Fitness
- Kettlebell Turkish Get Up | Zach Even-Esh
- What Makes Hawaiian Kona Coffee Better than Regular Coffee from Other Origins? | Quora
- If Dry January Is Too Much for You, Try Its More Lenient Cousin — Damp January | Fortune Well
- Track, Budget, Plan, and Do More with Your Money | Monarch Money
- Modern Financial and Retirement Planning Tools | ProjectionLab
- Supercharge Your Finances with Insights You Won’t Get from Your Bank | Copilot
- The World’s Most Modern Portfolio Tracker | Kubera
- VTI-Vanguard Total Stock Market ETF | Vanguard
- How High Will Bitcoin Go? Here’s What Prediction Markets Say | Yahoo! Finance
- Buy, Sell, and Store Hundreds of Cryptocurrencies | Coinbase
- The Energy World Is Set to Change Significantly by 2030, Based on Today’s Policy Settings Alone | IEA
- NLR: VanEck Uranium and Nuclear ETF | VanEck
- The Lord of the Rings Motion Picture Trilogy Extended Edition | Prime Video
- Details Emerge on Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Plan to Build the ‘iPhone of Artificial Intelligence’ | The Verge
- Harvard Duo Modifies Meta Glasses to Grab Strangers’ Info | The Register
- The Terminator | Prime Video
- Terminator (T-800) Vision | YouTube
- 10 AI Music Generators for Creators in 2024 | DigitalOcean
- What We Know About the Mysterious Drones Buzzing over New Jersey | BBC
- It’s Been Nearly Two Decades Since the ‘Tic Tac’ Incident — Here’s What We Know About the Iconic UFO Encounter | 8 News Now
- Understanding UFOs: What Has to Happen in 2025 to Move the UAP Story Forward? | Space
- Report a UFO Sighting | Enigma Labs
- Moment of Contact | Prime Video
- E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial | Prime Video
- UFO | Prime Video
- Aliens Probing | The Kids in the Hall S04E11
- UFOs Are Real, But Don’t Assume They’re Alien Spaceships | Space
- Survey of Entity Encounter Experiences Occasioned by Inhaled N,N-Dimethyltryptamine: Phenomenology, Interpretation, and Enduring Effects | Journal of Psychopharmacology
- America’s UFO Hotspot Map Correlates to Dark Sky Locations | Axios
- Wild Harvested Axis Venison | Maui Nui Venison
- Jake Muise — The Relentless Pursuit of Innovation, Quality, and Meaning | The Tim Ferriss Show #678
- About Our Bar | David Protein
- Food-Sharing: Holo ‘Ai | Maui Nui Venison
- Protecting the Amazon in Partnership with Indigenous and Other Local Communities | Amazon Conservation Team
- Dr. Mark Plotkin on Ethnobotany, Real vs. Fake Shamans, Hallucinogens, and the Dalai Lamas of South America | The Tim Ferriss Show #469
- Accelerated TMS: Moving Quickly into the Future of Depression Treatment | Neuropsychopharmacology
- Meditation Training Program | The Way
- Henry Shukman — Zen, Tools for Awakening, Ayahuasca vs. Meditation, Intro to Koans, and Using Wounds as the Doorway | The Tim Ferriss Show #531
- Zen Master Henry Shukman — 20 Minutes of Calm, Plus the Strange and Powerful World of Koans | The Tim Ferriss Show #560
- A Personalized Journey to Inner Peace, Clarity, and Wellness | Transcendental Meditation
- TMS Machines | MagVenture
- Innovative, Noninvasive Treatment | BrainsWay Deep TMS
- Async Video Messaging for Work | Loom
- The 30-Day Challenge: No Booze, No Masturbating (NOBNOM) | Tim Ferriss
- Anna Lembke, MD: Dopamine and Addiction: Navigating Pleasure, Pain, and the Path to Recovery | Peter Attia Drive #321
- SXSW Conference & Festivals
- The Present Moment: A Retreat on the Practice of Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh | Audible
- After: A Doctor Explores What Near-Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond by Bruce Greyson | Amazon
- Learnings from 1,000+ Near-Death Experiences — Dr. Bruce Greyson, University of Virginia | The Tim Ferriss Show #774
SHOW NOTES
- [00:04:49] Aloha and happy holidays!
- [00:07:35] Contemplating the societal impact of reality-bending AI.
- [00:16:10] Meathead vs. holistic fitness.
- [00:25:43] My current fitness priorities.
- [00:28:00] The pros and cons of training to failure.
- [00:37:09] Back pain causes and stem cell relief.
- [00:42:17] Protein’s role in my regimen.
- [00:43:20] LICUS (Low-Intensity Continuous Ultrasound Therapies).
- [00:45:50] Early adoption leads to mainstream affordability.
- [00:48:12] Inexpensive injury avoidance/reversal.
- [00:50:45] Apps for tracking and planning finances.
- [00:58:17] Bitcoin and other investment projections.
- [00:59:03] AI mobile device predictions.
- [01:06:07] AI’s place in the future of music creation.
- [01:06:49] We’re not saying it’s aliens, but…
- [01:18:31] David Bars, Maui Nui Venison, and ethical wild meat harvesting.
- [01:27:29] Alternative field trips considered.
- [01:28:32] From a simmering seven or eight to a chill two.
- [01:30:40] Aversion-defusing meditation — this is The Way.
- [01:37:48] Retreat!
- [01:38:32] Making time for friendship bonding.
- [01:43:50] NOBNOM complete. System reset.
- [01:46:43] The benefits of taking a break from alcohol.
- [01:49:08] A few reading recommendations.
- [01:53:34] Parting thoughts.
PEOPLE MENTIONED
- Chris Sacca
- Chris Hutchins
- Hugh Jackman
- Nsima Inyang
- Mark Bell
- Serge Gracovetsky
- Chuck Norris
- Tony Robbins
- Gray Cook
- Adam Gazzaley
- Jony Ive
- Donald Trump
- Elon Musk
- J.J. Abrams
- Jake Muise
- Peter Attia
- Kamehameha V
- Henry Shukman
- Darya Rose
- Anna Lembke
- Thich Nhat Hanh
- Bruce Greyson
- Toaster Pino Rose
- Molly Ferriss




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Appreciate your dedication to sharing such valuable insights over the years. I’ll definitely look into The Rescue as recommended—Jimmy Chin’s work is always incredible! If you haven’t already, you should check out his film Free Solo; it’s an awe-inspiring journey of determination and courage. Wishing you all the best in 2025—stay inspired and well!
Thank you, cravourycakes.
Tim has actually had Alex Honnold on his podcast: https://tim.blog/2016/05/17/alex-honnold/.
(As well as Jimmy Chin: https://tim.blog/2015/10/20/the-athlete-and-artist-who-cheats-death-jimmy-chin/)
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Thanks in advance for your diligent efforts and success in providing excellent information over the years. I must check out The Rescue as you provided. Eyes caught name of Jimmy Chen… amazing director and mountain climber. You must check out the Movie… Meru… Netflix I believe. You will be captured by the amazing efforts of Jimmy, and two other climbers with their expedition to the famed rock, Nepal. Cheers, and Be Well in 2025
Entertaining as always, enjoyed the side bar on aliens 😳
sorry to hear about some of the ongoing pain and injury struggles. With your resources, you should spend some time with Dr. Gundry in Santa Barbara, CA. He would actually be a fascinating interview discussing his health and wellness views!
Tim, I’m happy to hear you mention our mutual friend, Dr. Mark Plotkin’s critically important work at the Amazon Conservation Team. Although you have rebroadcast several of his Plants of the Gods podcasts, you have actually only interviewed him once, over 4 years ago. I believe that his approach to conservation is novel and is the most efficient strategy to save biodiversity, at the lowest cost, by saving the indigenous communities and cultures that live there. I would very much like to hear a follow-up interview with Dr. Plotkin, going even more in depth than your excellent original episode. Thanks,
Carlos Jimenez DVM
Curious about AG1 as I have been having great results with Ka’Chava. Did you try many before settling on AG1 or was your selection mainly based on the ingredients? Curious about your selection process.
The problem with “disclosure” is that it’s essentially impossible. The easiest tactic would be to tell the investigator, including a total security-risk jackass like Musk, that no, it was just a Cold War ruse. Of course, you’d have no idea whether you were being told the truth…or even whether the entity you asked knew the answer, or would tell you the truth about knowing the answer.
The alternative is “Yep, they’re real,” in which case the newly read-in person would agree to keep the secret like the others did for some reason. The only thing that would make sense to me is that the news is very, very bad.
A relative of mine was base adjutant at Roswell in 1948. He refused to say anything about his time there in the remaining six decades of his life.
Thank you and Kevin for continuing The Random Show. I love these, in part because the trust and warmth between you two comes across clearly in your voices, as well as through how you talk to each other. The predictions for the new year are always interesting and informative, and thanks for the tip to think of new year’s reservations so the important and meaningful activities with loved ones happen.
The alien anal probe makes sense! Check it:
Most people under-appreciate the mechanistic nature of the human body-mind and it’s relationship to the operation of it’s immediate environment, in this case the biosphere. When visiting a planet, the gut microbiota of the Apex predator of the planet would be the most data rich set you could quickly collect!