“All of us, regardless of what stage of life we’re at, we’ve got three basic needs: we all want to know that we matter, we want to be seen for who we are, and we want to know that we’re loved.”— Dr. Vivek Murthy
Dr. Vivek H. Murthy (@vivek_murthy, vivekmurthy.com) served as the 19th Surgeon General of the United States between 2014 and 2017. As the Vice Admiral of the US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, he commanded a uniformed service of 6,600 public health officers globally. During his tenure, Dr. Murthy launched the Turn the Tide campaign, catalyzing a movement among health professionals to address the nation’s opioid crisis. He also issued the first Surgeon General’s Report on Alcohol, Drugs, and Health, calling for expanded access to prevention and treatment and for addiction to be recognized as a chronic illness, not a character flaw.
In 2017, Dr. Murthy focused his attention on chronic stress and loneliness as prevalent problems that have profound implications for health, productivity, and happiness. He has co-founded a number of organizations: VISIONS, an HIV/AIDS education program in India; Swasthya, a community health partnership in rural India training women as health providers and educators; software company TrialNetworks; and the grassroots physicians organization Doctors for America.
Since leaving government service, Dr. Murthy has continued to focus on loneliness and social connection. His book Together: The Healing Power of Human Connection in a Sometimes Lonely World will be published this spring by Harper Collins.
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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Connect with Dr. Vivek H. Murthy:
- Together: the Healing Power of Human Connection in a Sometimes Lonely World by Dr. Vivek H. Murthy
- Doctors for America
- Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19), CDC
- The Tail End by Tim Urban, Wait But Why
- Office of the Surgeon General (OSG), HHS
- U.S. Commissioned Corps
- Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
- Food and Drug Administration (FDA)
- National Institutes of Health (NIH)
- Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
- Bureau of Prisons (BOP)
- National Park Service
- Department of the Interior
- September 11 Attacks: Facts, Background, and Impact, History
- The Obama Administration’s Response to Ebola, The White House
- The Hope Multipliers: The US Public Health Service in Monrovia, Public Health Reports
- NYC Preparing Javits Center for Sharp Increase in COVID-19 Cases, NBC
- Zika Virus, CDC
- Andrew Cuomo Should Follow the Path of Winston Churchill, Not Rudy Giuliani by John Philp, CNN Opinion
- South Korea’s Coronavirus Response Is the Opposite of China and Italy — and It’s Working, This Week in Asia, SCMP Research
- Can California Keep 9 Million People at Home? The New York Times
- Pearl Harbor: Attack, Casualties, and Facts, History
- Coronavirus: How Emotional Contagion Exacts a Toll with Sigal Barsade, Knowledge@Wharton
- Connecting at Work by Vivek Murthy, Harvard Business Review
- The More You Energize Your Coworkers, the Better Everyone Performs by Wayne Baker, Harvard Business Review
- Why We Need Best Friends at Work, Gallup Workplace
- UCLA Loneliness Scale (Version 3)
- Vivek Murthy: How To Solve The Work Loneliness Epidemic by Dan Schawbel, Forbes
- What is the US Opioid Epidemic? HHS.gov
- This Former Surgeon General Says There’s a ‘Loneliness Epidemic’ and Work Is Partly to Blame, The Washington Post
- How Vivek trains people to pronounce his name.
- Did Vivek write a book on loneliness purely to address a widescale public health issue, or was it prompted by something more personal?
- How has loneliness played out in Vivek’s adult life?
- As an internal medicine specialist who wasn’t formally trained to help his patients cope with loneliness, Vivek encountered it often, nonetheless. What did he do to comfort these patients?
- How does Vivek relate to mortality?
- What does the job of Surgeon General entail, and how did Vivek find his way to the office? Who answers to the office, and where might they be found?
- After battling the Ebola virus during the Obama administration, what are the similarities and differences Vivek has observed about our current COVID-19 crisis? What are we getting right, and what are we getting wrong?
- If Vivek were the benevolent dictator of the United States at this point in time, how would he direct his team for maximum effect against COVID-19, and what three principles would guide him? What interventions — whether statewide or nationwide — would he consider implementing?
- Is the United States too culturally different and too politically divided to follow the stricter virus containment measures of countries like China and South Korea?
- How can we agree on a course of decisive action as a nation when we’re so polarized? Could COVID-19 become a catalyzing call for unity?
- What tools or advice would Vivek suggest to a CEO or company leader for counterbalancing the effects of loneliness among his or her staff during this time of intense isolation?
- How did Vivek determine there was a chronic loneliness problem in the workplace, and in what way does his inside scoop exercise help workmates form a closer, more familial connection with one another?
- Polls and questions that can help check the pulse of your team members at work and their level of connection.
- What does Vivek mean when he says “Remember your anchors,” and what does he consider his own anchors?
- During what period of time did Vivek feel especially lost, lonely, and “probably depressed?”
- What made Vivek’s transition out of his role as Surgeon General so traumatic, what did the aftermath look like, and what has helped him get past it?
- How many of us look at emotions as a source of weakness versus a source of power?
- How did the book Vivek wound up writing differ from the book he thought he was going to write?
- Parting thoughts.
- Vivek’s Parents
- Tim Urban
- Barack Obama
- Andrew Cuomo
- Sigal Barsade
- Wayne Baker
- Adam Grant
- Jocko Willink
- Cal Fussman
- Peter Attia
- Serena Williams
- LeBron James
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