The Random Show, Episode 22 – Home Defense, Start-ups, Raccoon Throwing, Public Stock Investing, and Mail-Order Urine

There are dozens of topics covered in this wine-infused, bromantic episode of scatterbrained nonsense. Some of it might improve your stock picking or even save your labradoodle from being eaten alive. Or you can just choose to waste tons of money on awesomeness. O-tanoshimi dane!

This special edition of The Random Show was recorded and edited by Graham Hancock (@grahamhancock). For all previous episodes, including the epic China Scam episode, click here.

Below are all the show notes and links, courtesy of kind reader Jonathan Wu. Thanks, Jonathan!


1) St Vincent’s Restaurant SF

2) Taser Dual-Shot Pistols

3) Chef Steve Rinella

4) The Scavenger’s Guide to Haute Cuisine by Steve Rinella

5) Pee Mart

6) Deer RedLight Deterrent

7) Surefire LED Defender

8) (David Copperfield)

9) Theory 11 Magic Trick Online Guides

10) Every Day Carry (EDC)

11) Stumbling on Happiness by Dan Gilbert

12) Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely

13) Tim Ferriss Monthly Audio Podcast (TBA)? “Tim Tim Talk Talk”?

14) The Tech Guy by Leo Laporte

15) with Jack Dorsey

16) The Graveyard Books Audiobook by Neil Gaiman

17) The Reality Dysfunction by Peter F. Hamilton

18) Foundation by Isaac Asimov

19) Ender’s Game Series by Orson Scott Card

20) Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert a Heinlein

21) Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem

22) Kevin Rose’s Top 3 Stock Picks A. TSLA B. AMZN C. APPL

23) Netflix

24) Game of Thrones

25) SOG Tomahawk Knives

26) Food Photography Made Easy

27) Flow Free

28) Heroes of Ismia

29) creativeLIVE free high-def classes

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108 Replies to “The Random Show, Episode 22 – Home Defense, Start-ups, Raccoon Throwing, Public Stock Investing, and Mail-Order Urine”

      1. I’d like to see more stuff similar to what you did with Jesse Jacobs and tea, and Gary Vaynerchuk with wine.

      2. Can’t think of a better outlet for your info than a podcast. Really hope it happens.

  1. Downloading now.

    I’m expecting someone to beat me to the show notes (mainly because I have to get some work done beforehand), but I’ll give it a crack if no one beats me to the punch. 🙂

  2. Thanks for the comments, guys. I’ll post complete show notes when they come up. If not by tomorrow AM, then I post the limited book notes. Thanks! If you can’t, no worries…

  3. More Notes:

    St. Vincent Restaurant


    Kevin Throwing Raccoon:

    Steven Rinella’s The Scavenger’s Guide to Haute Cuisine

    Theory 11 (aka Etsy for magicians)

    Every Day Carry

    SOG Knives and Tomahawks

    Heroes of Ismia Board Game

    David Copperfield

    David Blaine

    Cranial Competition was a tie (23.5 inches)

  4. Full Show Notes

    Show Notes:

    1) St Vincent’s Restaurant SF

    2) Taser Dual-Shot Pistols

    3) Chef Steve Rinella

    4) The Scavenger’s Guide to Haute Cuisine by Steve Rinella

    5) Pee Mart

    6) Deer RedLight Deterrent

    7) Surefire LED Defender

    8) (David Copperfield)

    9) Theory 11 Magic Trick Online Guides

    10) Every Day Carry (EDC)

    11) Stumbling on Happiness by Dan Gilbert

    12) Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely

    13) Tim Ferris Monthly Audio Podcast (TBA) “Tim Tim Talk Talk”

    14) The Tech Guy by Leo Laporte

    15) with Jack Dorsey

    16) The Graveyard Books Audiobook by Neil Gaiman

    17) The Reality Dysfunction by Peter F. Hamilton

    18) Foundation by Isaac Asimov

    19) Ender’s Game Series by Orson Scott Card

    20) Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert a Heinlein

    21) Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem

    22) Kevin Rose’s Top 3 Stock Picks A. TSLA B. AMZN C. APPL

    23) Netflix

    24) Game of Thrones

    25) SOG Tomahawk Knives

    26) Food Photography Made Easy

    27) Flow Free

    28) Heroes of Ismia

      1. 🙂

        You’re a good sport, man. Kudos to you. I’ll throw in creativeLIVE, and thank you.



      2. No problem Tim,

        Let me know if you want me to do these in the future (actually helped me pay attention to the recommendations you guys had)

  5. Tim-

    I’d love to see your podcast have at least one episode that focuses solely on the various ‘Smart Drugs’ that you have previously discussed on a previous Random Show as well as the Joe Rogan Experience. You, Joe Rogan, and a few others know so much about these that it would be really cool to shed some light about what works and what doesn’t as well as the common side effects that someone might experience after taking them.

    This is a somewhat taboo topic as you already know, but I think this venue would be a perfect way to get all the facts and details out there!

  6. • Saint-Vincent Tavern – Good pork and wine

    • Tasers for home defense – good alternative for guns and protection against raccoons (vs. just throwing one, like Kevin did)

    • Steve Vanell (?) – Chief, hunter and NYTimes writer that helped Tim

    • Tim’s suggestion for home defense are phone for break-ins and red flashing lights for protection; firearms only as last resort

    • Pee Mart – Sells coyote urine to scare away pests on lawns

    • Surefire Flashlight – Flashlight that will blind assailants or thieves

    • Kevin recently met David Copperfield for, Kevin’s Internet show about entrepreneurs

    • Kevin did a magic trick and is disappointed magic isn’t more “socially” cool, especially among girls (aka – he hasn’t read The Game)

    • Theory11 – Website about magic, sponsored by David Copperfield; it sells video instructional guides and gimmicks for magicians; promotes young magicians

    • Memorable ideas from Copperfield interview: Cooperfield is most concerned about entertaining audience; he initially wanted to be a performer rather than a magician. He tries to find 2-3 ways to do the same thing in case anyone figures out how to do it.

    • Kevin was inspired to interview Copperfield after seeing David Blaine. Initially met Cooperfield over Twitter.

    • – Shows what various guys carry on a daily basis, with a focus on defense (ex: switch blades, etc.). Tim loves this site.

    • Stumbling on Happiness, by Daniel Gilbert, Harvard Professor – Argues that what people thinks will make them happy, rarely makes them happy. Tim and Kevin compare it to Predictable Irrational by Dan Ariely that looks at how odd people behave.

    • Tim is thinking about starting a monthly podcast (“Tim Tim Talk Talk”) – Would have 1-2 guests a month; get people who are really good at sometimes and find out what helps them be successful.

    • Twit (The Tech Guy) – Podcaster Kevin likes because he knows how to bring interview back on track.

    • Commonalities among people Kevin interviews – surround them with the best talent, demand excellence; and constantly “edit” the team (in Jack Dorsey’s words)

    • When firing, Kevin prefers to specifically explain why it happen, pointing to 2-3 things they have done poorly and give them a few recommendations. Believes it’s important to not delay firing, which is hard. Also, believes CEOs have to have strong backbones.

    • Tim only read non-fiction for 15 years, but changed his mind recently; Kevin doesn’t read business books and prefers fiction.

    • The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman – Tim’s fiction recommendation (Children’s fantasy novel…Tim, is that the only kind of fiction reading you do?)

    • A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius by Dave Eggers – Book about cancer recommended by Daria, Kevin’s wife.

    • Sci-fi books:

    o The Reality Dysfunction and Pandora’s Star by Peter Hamilton – Daria likes

    o Foundation by Isaac Asimov –Kevin likes

    o Ender’s Game by O – Tim likes

    o Stranger in A Strange Land – Tim likes

    • Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem – Funny book about detective with a tick disorder

    • Tim doesn’t invest in public stocks because he feels he doesn’t have enough information or can influence outcome

    • Kevin takes the Warren Buffet approach to investing; invests in stocks for 5 years; only owns 3-4 stocks

    • Kevin’s high-risk / high-growth investments: Tesla, Amazon (Tim likes), and Apple. Kevin invests in Tesla because of its battery switching stations (think Exxon), Amazon because of Prime (think laziness), and Apple because they have the best designer. Watches Netflix and LinkedIn stocks

    • Tim believes Netflix’s House of Cards will get at least one or two Emmys (nominated by 7) in September. Will be changing television forever. Kevin believes this can event can create a television app ecosystem with small studios making shows, which will leave Netflix behind.

    • Tim got the flies at an LA restaurant and didn’t introduce himself to Emilia Clarke (Khaleesi) and John Snow.

    • SOG – Tim likes their tomahawks, which were deployed in Vietnam; threw them in New York

    • Daria’s recommendations for apps that make food photos look good ( – Snapseed, Camera+, Pro HDR and (#1) Instagram

    • Flow Free – Tim likes playing that iPhone

    • Isma – An upcoming game on Kickstarter which Kevin likes

    • Kevin and Daria play Dungeons & Dragons

    • Kevin took off his wedding ring and pretended it was a magic trick

  7. Okay first off, I love these Random Shows and wish there were more of them and Kevin, I’m sorry you are mistaken about magic. Girls do love magic, done well. I am a semi professional magician and if you are in New York ever will be glad to show you. From my experience most people will give you the benefit of the doubt when you perform magic (so you better produce the goods). And I would probably avoid doing card tricks in a club/bar (though I’ve been paid to do so). I guess like anything else, it’s how you frame it and yes there are a small percentage of people who do not like magic, but from my experience girls love it.

  8. My recent favorite board game – DixIt; best for 5-6 players and requires lots of imagination. Instructions are somewhat longwinded, but the actual game very addictive. Great episode, thanks!

  9. Hah! My cousin introduced me to Flow Free recently. Clean game … played it for hours. Makes me feel nauseous though. Don’t know about the iPhone, but it is a battery killer on my Android Phone (Sony). Back to crosswords (by Splash Pad Mobile) …

  10. Bro. bro. Bro.

    A podcast from you would be awesome.


    To hear your personal questioning/interviewing process with a master at someone would be such an insane education in how to get that shit done

    And also to hear from a huge variety of guys I’d not normally even care about.

    Would be so down for that

  11. Tim, if you really want to blow some cash on outrageously awesome gear, you have to join the USN Forum. It’s a community of professional knife and gadget makers, gear nerds, and generally obsessive types – you’d love it. There’s a “pocket dump” thread thats 1446 pages long, with around 20,000 different EDC loadouts. Also, there’s stuff for sale there that you simply can’t find anywhere else.!!!!/page1446

  12. Hi Tim,

    Funnily enough I was introduced to you and The 4-Hour Workweek from your first appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience.

    Do you think for a special podcast you could analyse a historical figure applying the same principles? For someone like Steve Jobs his biographer or someone who knew him well could be your guest. When looking at someone like Da Vinci a potential guest could be a historian or a biographer, etc.

    Either way, a Tim Ferriss podcast would be awesome.



    1. Thanks for the comments and suggestions on the podcast, all!

      Mitch, the biographer angle is a great suggestion. I’ve actually met Walter Isaacson, who wrote both Franklin and Jobs’ biographies, several times. Good idea.


  13. Neil Gaiman is awesome – if you liked The Graveyard Book, you’ll probably enjoy The Ocean at the End of the Lane which is his latest title.

    Other great sci-fi/hard fantasy for fans of Ender’s Game and the like:

    Ready Player One by Ernest Cline (audiobook narrated by Wil Wheaton!)

    Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson

    the Dresden Files series by Jim Butcher

    Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson

    Old Man’s War by John Scalzi

  14. Tim, ever since i got into graduate school i realized that i should have followed my passion. With that said, a Podcast showcasing people who have true passion for what they do (i.e. chef, janitor etc…) will help people see they should do what they love, not what society conditions them to do

    Thanks again for another Random Show


  15. I want to give “Stranger in a Strange Land” a go but it seems there is more than one version of the book. Which edition (year) you guys actually read/recommend?

      1. So it’s uncut version, thank you. I loved The Graveyard audiobook so thanks for that, such great narrating and music.

  16. A BIG YES for the podcast. You don’t need any fancy equipment or be eloquent. If the podcasts are as great at these random episodes, they’ll do fine.

  17. Yeah Tim,

    Definitely keep these coming- Monthly would be perfect cycle for this.

    Mix it up with business, philosophy, books, fitness/martial arts, travel and such- keep it varied but consistent.

    Keep doing your thing man, see you soon.

  18. Tim, I love the podcast idea and I actually enjoy listening to the long format audio podcasts a lot.

    My suggestions for possible guests:

    Ido Portal – quite a character, super strong (does one arm handstands and one arm chinups like it’s nothing) and funny, has a very no-BS attitude towards movement

    Eddie Huang – his Fresh Off the Boat Youtube Series is brilliant! Chef + Hustler from NYC

    David Simon – the creator of The Wire

    Nassim Taleb – an all around interesting person, whom you’ve probably met already

  19. Any tips for stopping ‘red wine mouth'[my mouth looks like a vampires mouth after I finish drinking]? I figure you’d have something figured out.

    1. @Graham Rowe You can use carbonated water to help mitigate the stains red wine will leave on your teeth.

      Tim, you clearly underestimate the strength of your brand, I assure you that if the Khaleesi herself hadn’t heard about you, someone at the table would have.

  20. Every time I watch one of these I have a “Tim Ferriss” dream and wake up with five more devices on my shopping list. Well done guys. I especially liked the restaurant recommendations and taser gun… also, great insight on public stocks.

  21. Heinlen is da man. The moon is a harsh mistress introduced me to Libertarian thinking, Lazarus Long to many 4 hrww principles before you were born, the cat who walks through walls into ……….. ok, i have read a lot of them. Asimov has great ideas, but Heinlen brought the characters to life. Great writer.

    And why a podcast instead of a videocast? The nonverbal interaction is as important to the story as the words. Who cares if its a crappy picture, give us the visual, please.

    I do enjoy these random shows, so keep them coming!

  22. Laughed hearing ya’ll have synchronized cycles, & seeing toaster kiss Tim. Looking forward to Tim Tim, Talk Talk, long long! Tim come to Portland’s tango fest Oct. 9-14!! I’ll give you flight instruction lessons free & you can interview a buddy that lives in a 727 & friends @ Van’s RV, largest designer and kit producer in the world of home built aircraft!! Glad to know your single – lots to see & do in Portland for a interview retreat!!!

  23. Hola Tim !

    This is the first time I watch your show and I’m having a blast ! Me encanta !!!

    You also have inspired me to make a quantum leap from just creating an online conference in october to creating a podcast YES ! It just resonates with me so much more !

    I’m already looking into different ways to monetize a podcast. Se te ocurre algo? Ideas para un nuevo show?

    Gracias por la inspiración !

    Un abrazo !

  24. Tim!! You played D&D!?!?! Holy smoke, it all makes sense… this is the key to your books and your life: you’re living out making your “character” better. All this language and skill hacking and tomahawk mojo: you are becoming an increasingly awesome grey elf… in real life.

    Now I have to go re-read your books through that lens. Mind blown.

  25. Nice! I would like to suggest that in the next episodes, you could enable the subtitles (not the transcription, but the youtube try to convert to text).

  26. Podcast!!!!!!

    I’d be so incredibly mutually exciting for your followers (“readers” doesn’t suffice anymore) and yourself.

  27. Podcast!!!!!!

    I’d be so incredibly mutually exciting for your followers (“readers” doesn’t suffice anymore) and yourself.

    Btw: Don’t try to emulate other podcasts. Most Talkshow hosts (e.g. Conan O’Brien) don’t watch other talkshows.

    You are supposed to have your own style. That is why your followers appreciate you.

  28. Tim, loved the wine soaked bromance episode. Where to start? Never thought any public figure would ever think Stranger in a Strange Land was a great book. One of my favorites! I’m also a Foundation geek…sorry. Glad to hear you guys are audiobook junkies too.

    Thanks for all the info in the show notes. Will be digging through them:)

  29. The raccoon thing is fantastic. I vividly remember having a few drinks and chasing raccoons on the way back to the dorm at Stanford. Those little bastards will turn around and chase you back if you get too close!

    One quick comment on your first few minutes on self defense. Depending on a taser for self defense in your home is not smart. Feeling that you have any responsibility to the safety of someone threatening you in your home is dangerous. It’s the law of nature.

    One time I saw a mule deer doe with fawns kill a bobcat that was stalking her. Was that wrong? Nope. She literally trampled the hell out of it. If someone is threatening you and/or your family in your house, they get what they deserve.

    Tim, if you ever get the bug to hunt for elk with a recurve in CO, shoot me an email.

    Always appreciate your posts. Helpful in life and biz.

  30. Thanks for the episode; I think it was the best this year (so far).

    Tim, it turns out you already have an Instagram account; someone reserved it for you to keep squatters away. He sent your assistent the login details:

    Looking forward to Tim Tim Talk Talk Long Long. Maybe you talk with David Allen (Getting Things Done)?

  31. Another awesome random show! Have applied 4 hour work week to my circumstances, and now living the sweet life in Australia, running a business direct from home.

    Podcast sounds great, try and get las many female experts as you can!

  32. Great show. Looking forward to the podcast. I’d love to see some folks that you used as inspiration for your books, in the cooking world as well as the athletic world. Maybe a world class coach or athlete, to talk about their philosophies and what drives them, etc. And of course I never get sick of your great work with entrepreneurs, startups, and everything business related.

    Thanks for everything!

  33. Tim thats the second time Ive heard you reference your d&d character by race rather than class.

    This is a case of your stoicism mapping to d&d: “I’m not a carpenter, I’m a blonde man who crafts wood”. Im not a rogue knife thrower, im a gray elf who enjoys throwing knives and lifting coin purses.

    multiclass gray elf… Post Script for d&d players reading this: listen to LOTR audio book to experience happiness.

  34. Hi Tim,

    I am a fan of yours, and I gained insight and a new perspective on how to approach a lot of things from your books and talks online with entrepreneurs.

    I have a mobile app idea I would like to pursue developing based on a section from one of your books. I wanted to touch base with you about developing it, royalty fees, or just your blessings, or a discussion on it if you are open to it.

    I hope this is a good medium to contact you, and I would love to hear back from you. Thank you for your time.

  35. Question:

    What would a brother have to do to get his hands on the deleted 4HC sections of your buddy’s compound in Texas?

    “i know it might sound a bit odd, but i’m a long time fan and first time compound builder. Finally got up the nerve to ask. it won’t take more than 2 minutes of your time. is there any way you can help me out?” 🙂

    If not possible it’s all good, but thought I’d ask!


  36. Tim, I HIGHLY encourage you to make a podcast right now. I created one a few months ago ( for the same reasons and I run it from a backpack. It has significantly help me as a person and all my businesses.

    I went in-depth on an article with my take on how I setup and run my podcast, just for you. It’s very minimal:

    As far as possible interviewees, I would love to hear you talk to your role models like Rob Wolf, Richard Koch, or Paulo Coelho. But also, Scott Jurek, Mark Cuban, Seth Godin, or Lindsey Stirling (everyday people that changed their lives). I have a list in evernote of possible interviewees and you’ve been on the top for a while, I just wanted to get a few interviews under my belt and then I’ll try my hardest to get you on 🙂

    Call it the 4-Hour Podcast and get the interviewees drunk for 4 hours.

  37. I rarely read fiction, but when I do it’s usually D&D type stuff, you should check out The Dresden Files if you ever get a chance Tim. Once thing I must say I’m amazed at is how much books you get to read with what must definitely be a packed schedule..then I remember: you wrote the four hour work week.


  38. I would love to hear a podcast from you. I recently discovered the Joe Rogan podcast and the talks you have together was almost like I was chilling with you guys in the studio – it felt great. Would be awesome to hear content which is outside of the 4hour themes but with the Tim Ferriss perspective on them.

  39. Tim, your listening skills are getting great. I’ve watched you refine your social skills over the past five years and I like to see how much more charming you’ve become by humbling yourself and bringing the greatness out in Kevin.

    You’ve lost the occasional snarky smile and gained a vulnerable confidence that compliments your personality well. Kudos!

  40. Great podcast, thanks guys.

    For the Tim Tim Talk Talk I think it would be interesting if you showed things that I didn’t even realize I didn’t know about.

    Love the link suggestions.

    And WTG Kevin for the racoon toss! Lol.. that was awesome. Glad you didn’t get bit/scratched/whatever.

  41. Guys – I always enjoy your stuff, and Tim I’m a big fan of the books, but when you started talking about investing and stocks it was a bit painful. You guys spend so much time trying to learn from the greats in your various fields of interest, but no offense it sure doesn’t sound like you’ve done the same with investing. For instance, here’s a super simplistic way to invest that was penned back in the ’70’s by one of the greats that I found on the web( – Tim you could do this simplistic approach and compare the results at the end of each year to Kevin’s concentrated bets on overvalued speculative names – in the near term the outcomes would be random but I assure you you will smoke him over longer time frames(and you will surely crush the returns of T-bonds that you are in!). The way you guys approach technology, body hacking, etc is all very easily applied to investing as well – you should direct some energy toward that field, who knows could be your next book. If you are ever in Boston and want to discuss investing shoot me an email.

  42. Hi Tim,

    Love the Random show, I can’t wait for the next episode.

    Your book recommendations are great. I finished listening to the Graveyard Book not too long ago and thought is was amazing.

    A recommendation for another sci fi book (which I’d also recommend to you listen to rather than read) for you and your readers is Wool by Hugh Howey. I just finished it, and loved it so much I would literally pray for grid lock on my drive home so I could hear more!


    Ryan H.

  43. I loved Ender’s Game, but I think that Orson Scott Card is kind of a jerk. Anti gay marriage crusader. Compares Obama to Hitler. Lots of jerks have made good art, but I do have reservations about purchasing or consuming anything that will put more money in his pocket.

  44. Tim content trumps technique every time. Which was a better band The Stooges or The MC5. MC5 were better musicians but every one loves The Stooges because the content was there. Don’t worry if your podcasts do not sound polished like Larry King. “Adding money tends to make things more normal”- Brian Eno

  45. The show’s good, the racoon part – great for starters. Anyway, I would like to know what Kevin has on this wrist. What is it?

  46. Great show

    Move away from being a trickster and towards using magic to read minds, predict the future,etc. It amazes and brings something special to people.

    Sign me up for long form podcast.

    Do a paid version to support one of your charities.

  47. Great episode Tim!

    You mentioned you are considering starting a monthly podcast and as Kevin Rose was saying, it can come down to a good microphone.

    Our company has created a microphone and audio system specifically for DSLR camera recording, which would be convenient for you if you are on the road and find it cumbersome to transport all the traditional video recording material.

    If your interested we would be happy to send you a sample of our product for you to test out for your podcast.


  48. Another good show. Good recommendations too.

    I just read a Brief History of Time, excellent one. Next is the Grand Design, also by Hawking. I’ll def. read Stumbling on Happiness. Also up on my list is 1491, and The World Until Yesterday.

  49. Wellness Fx is on the list.

    Have had two comprehensive blood tests done by the Life Extension Foundation. Glad I did, even though the results are putting me in a serious state of cognitive dissonance. (Am I not the guy everyone’s always saying is in great shape?)

    Figure that I’ll be needing to consistently monitor some numbers as I endeavor to improve them and Wellness Fx may be the ticket.



  50. I figured out that trick in like 3 seconds, but im pretty good at figuring out magic tricks. The deck is in a specific order and each card has some symbols on the back which indicate which card is above it. He simply takes a look at the back of the card, which you can see easily if you rewind it.

  51. Tim,

    Any chance for a new episode for 2014? I really enjoyed the show at the beginning of 2013 and was hoping for one this year!

  52. LOVED this chat! I so agreed with most of it! I would have loved to be sitting there chatting…no games on the iPhone? I’m soooo glad I’m not the only one! Super smart, sexy, but not into every app out there?? Me, too! Love picking the brains of the brilliant brainiacs? I’m in.

    Love, love, love the talk. I agree completely with Kevin’s stocks..I own the same. Thanks for sharing. I love his insights on CEO’s and backbone. True that!

    Lets hang for the next podcast. Throwing stars, bows and arrows, and some great healthy food…so you can get even more skilled and gorgeous for your date with Calisi! She likes a well rounded, masculine man…and you fit the bill! (If she’s not available, I’ll hang with you…if. you. think. you. can.)

    GREAT show! Very fun.


  53. Tim – enjoying watching The Random Show. You were talking about professions and the 80/20 rule and even said you’d talk to “the best janitor.”

    I’m one of the best pet groomers in the industry, and it’s so funny to see you bring up using the 80/20 rule for any profession because I’ve done it with pet grooming. I even did a company meeting to discuss the idea of the 80/20 rule and how it applies to grooming when I was “Chief Grooming Officer” for a mobile grooming company.

    Feel free to get in touch with me if you like, the subject of both ideas (pet grooming and 80/20 rule) are fascinating to me.

  54. Hey Tim,

    Great hanging out with you! I was interested in your “How to fire someone” question. In my CEO group, this is the hardest thing for us to do. We invested in these people and we HATE to loose! Weirdly, a former employee of mine, named Tim Ferris-(really!) helped me with this troubling problem by asking the question “is it skill, or will?” If it is skill you need, we can give you training, if it is will, then you need to go! I tell people I am firing that we are clearly not a good match. I want them to be successful and happy and so am letting them go to find better options. This is not disingenuous as I offer to help in their new job search. Not firing people who need to go is the most common mistake of all businesses. I have fired my husband, best friend and son. It was hard to do. Some relationships did not survive. Some businesses did not survive, but I carry on, building for the people who remain and my customers, clients and so I can plunge into even more challenging arenas.

    Thanks for the glass of wine! Mary Boone