If the Earth was flat, wouldn’t the edge be the most popular tourist attraction on Earth? I would just go set up a taco truck and make a billion dollars with my edge-of-the-Earth tacos.— Scott Kelly
Scott Kelly (@StationCDRKelly) is a former military fighter pilot and test pilot, an engineer, a retired astronaut, and a retired US Navy captain. A veteran of four space flights, Scott commanded the International Space Station (ISS) on three expeditions and was a member of the yearlong mission aboard the ISS, the single longest space mission by an American astronaut. In October 2015, he set the American record for the total accumulated number of days spent in space.
Go for Launch: How to Dream, Lead, and Achieve is Scott’s two-hour audio course available exclusively on Knowable. In this candid and entertaining audio course, Scott shares instructive stories from his childhood in New Jersey, his days as a US Navy test pilot, and his year hurtling around the globe at 17,500 mph and teaches hard-earned lessons on perseverance, personal motivation, and the human side of success, drawn from his experiences in the most competitive, extreme environments imaginable. You can find it now at knowable.fyi/scott.
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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Connect with Scott Kelly:
- Go For Launch: How to Dream, Lead, and Achieve by Scott Kelly | Knowable
- Endurance: My Year in Space, A Lifetime of Discovery by Scott Kelly
- International Space Station | NASA
- Space Shuttle Overview: Endeavour (OV-105) | NASA
- July 20, 1969: One Giant Leap For Mankind | NASA
- What is ADHD? | CDC
- The Right Stuff by Tom Wolfe
- SUNY Maritime College
- BUD/S Warning Order | Military.com
- Why the F-14 Tomcat Is Such a Badass Plane | Popular Mechanics
- Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage by Alfred Lansing
- The Old Man and The Sea by Ernest Hemingway
- The Good Earth by Pearl S. Buck
- Becoming Scientifically Literate | NSTA
- 10 Easy Ways You Can Tell for Yourself That the Earth Is Not Flat | Popular Science
- Steph Curry Tells Former Astronaut Scott Kelly Moon-Landing Comment Was ‘Made in Jest’ | Space
- How to Talk to Conspiracy Theorists—and Still Be Kind | MIT Technology Review
- Billionaire Space Race | Wikipedia
- Astronaut Scott Kelly: “It’s Political Science, Not Rocket Science” That’s Keeping Humans from Going to Mars | Sharp Magazine
- Measuring Return on Investment for Government Programs and Agencies | NASA
- Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math, Including Computer Science | US Department of Education
- Every White Guy on Facebook Is an Epidemiologist Now | Mother Jones
- Lesson excerpt: the smartest person on the mission. [01:29]
- Scott tells us how his mom was breaking boundaries right here on Earth in West Orange, New Jersey during the 1960s, and how it inspired his brother and him to aim high (really high!) with their own ambitions. [11:51]
- Many astronauts come from an elite pool of overachievers, but as someone who graduated from high school among the lower half of his peers, Scott was atypical in this respect. What catalyzed his course correction? [15:51]
- Self-describing as “a below-average guy performing at an above-average level,” how did Scott find the right approach to sustaining the momentum necessary to succeed? [22:07]
- How did Scott begin to put his plans in action, and what did his twin brother Mark — who also went on to become an astronaut and a senator — do to nudge further correction to a course that might have otherwise faltered when there was a choice to be made between going to a frat party and studying for a calculus test? [25:02]
- Can Scott point to any failures that set him up for later success? [29:27]
- Incidentally, how does flying an F-14 Tomcat differ from flying a space shuttle? [33:40]
- What books has Scott most gifted to others? [37:49]
- On scientific literacy, taco trucks, and how someone might develop a larger capacity to separate fact from fiction. [40:42]
- What would it really take to expand humanity’s presence beyond Earth to — for example — Mars, and why is it important even if it shouldn’t be seen as a “plan b” for our collective future should we fail in the stewardship of Earth? [47:42]
- Why did Scott produce Go For Launch on Knowable, and what does he hope people will take away from it? [53:53]
- What would Scott’s billboard say? [56:49]
- In space, no one can hear you cry. [57:57]
- Parting thoughts. [58:32]
- Lesson excerpt: the strength of a diverse crew. [1:00:34]
- Gabby Giffords
- Mark Kelly
- Patricia McAvoy Kelly
- Richard Kelly
- Neil Armstrong
- Tom Wolfe
- Pete Conrad
- Jerzy Gregorek
- Tom Brady
- Larry Page
- Alfred Lansing
- Ernest Shackleton
- Ernest Hemingway
- Pearl S. Buck
- Wang Lung
- Steph Curry
- Elon Musk
- Jeff Bezos
- Chris Paul
- Alexis Ohanian
- Galileo Galilei
- Isaac Newton
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