Welcome to another wide-ranging “Random Show” episode that I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose (digg.com)!
We explore the promises of DORAs for Alzheimer’s, Kevin’s AI stack and where AI is heading, the challenges of modern dating, wisdom from Anthony de Mello, bioelectric medicine, and much, much more.
Please enjoy!
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Transcripts
SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Connect with Kevin Rose:
Website | Instagram | Twitter | Threads | Bluesky | Digg.com | Diggnation Podcast
Frameworks and Rules to Apply
- Kevin’s 2-2-2 Rule for Alcohol: 2 drinks max in one day, 2 days a week, never 2 days in a row.
- Nonviolent Communication
- Terry Real’s Relationship Repair Frameworks
Books
- Awareness: Conversations with the Masters by Anthony de Mello
- The End of Alzheimer’s: The First Program to Prevent and Reverse Cognitive Decline by Dale Bredesen
- Fierce Intimacy: Standing Up to One Another with Love by Terry Real
- Gold by Rumi; trans. Haleh Liza Gafori
- The Mind of a Mnemonist: A Little Book about a Vast Memory by A.R. Luria
- The New Rules of Marriage: What You Need to Know to Make Love Work by Terry Real
- Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Life by Marshall Rosenberg
- Searching for Bobby Fischer: The Father of a Prodigy Observes the World of Chess by Fred Waitzkin
- Stop Fixing Yourself: Wake Up, All Is Well by Anthony de Mello
- Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow: A Novel by Gabrielle Zevin
- Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams by Matthew Walker
Films
Apps, Courses, and Digital Tools
- ChatGPT
- Claude (Haiku, Sonnet)
- Gemini
- NotebookLM (Google)
- Notion + Notion AI
- Oboe
- Perplexity
- The Way App
Conditions, Therapies, Drugs, and Protocols
- Alzheimer’s Genes (e.g., APOE variants)
- Ambien (Zolpidem)
- Aphantasia
- Belsomra (Suvorexant)
- BrainsWay TMS Systems
- D-cycloserine (DCS)
- Dual Orexin Receptor Antagonists (DORAs)
- Exogenous Ketones
- GLP-1 Agonists (e.g., Tirzepatide, Mounjaro, Ozempic)
- Hyperphantasia
- Ketogenic Diet
- MagVenture TMS Systems
- p-tau Blood Tests for Alzheimer’s Risk
- Rapamycin
- Resting-State fMRI–Guided TMS Targeting
- Synesthesia
- Trazodone
Fitness, Recovery, and Movement Gear
- Due North Rubz Ball Foot Massager
- Oura Ring
- TANK M3 Push Sled by Torque Fitness
- Tune Up Fitness Alpha Ball
- Pacerocker Walking Pad Treadmill
Kitchen and Home
- AXTH 25-in-1 Small Precision Screwdriver Set
- Caledonia Spirits Barr Hill Gin
- Maestri House Rechargeable Milk Frother
Recording Gear
Toys, Games, and Hobbies
AI / Tech Stack and Companies
- AMD GPUs
- Amazon Data Centers
- Android
- AWS (Amazon Web Services)
- Basecamp
- Google Cloud
- Google TPUs
- Microsoft Azure
- Nothing Earbuds with AI Talk Button
- Nothing Phone
- NVIDIA GPUs
- Salesforce
- Sandbar
People
- Peter Attia
- David Baszucki
- Jan Ellison Baszucki
- Marc Benioff
- Dale Bredesen
- Ed Coan
- Anthony de Mello
- Jack Dorsey
- Molly Ferriss
- Jason Fried
- Haleh Liza Gafori
- Kevin Kelly
- A.R. Luria
- Rhonda Patrick
- Terry Real
- Darya Rose
- Toaster Pino Rose
- Marshall B. Rosenberg
- Rumi
- Chris Sacca
- Henry Shukman
- Kevin Tracey
- Joshua Waitzkin
- Matthew Walker
- Nolan Williams
- Gabrielle Zevin
Organizations
Referenced and Related Podcast Episodes
- The Random Show: Ketones for Cognition, Tim’s Best Lab Results in 10+ Years, How Kevin Hit 100 Days Sober, Home Defense, Vibe Coding Unleashed, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show
- What Most Has My Attention Right Now: Credible (vs. Bogus) Vagus Nerve Stimulation | The Tim Ferriss Show
- Nolan Williams: A Glimpse of the Future—Electroceuticals for 70%–90% Remission of Depression, Brain Stimulation for Sports Performance, and De-risking Ibogaine for TBI/PTSD | The Tim Ferriss Show
- Live-Action Zelda, and the Spank Bank Declines Charges | Diggnation
- The Tim Ferriss Podcast Is Live! Here Are Episodes 1 and 2 | The Tim Ferriss Show
- Dr. Matthew Walker, All Things Sleep: How to Improve Sleep, How Sleep Ties into Alzheimer’s Disease and Weight Gain, and How Medications, Caffeine, THC/CBD, Psychedelics, Exercise, Smart Drugs, Fasting, and More Affect Sleep | The Tim Ferriss Show
- Can a Sleeping Pill Help Fight Alzheimer’s? | The Matt Walker Podcast
- David Baszucki, Co-Founder of Roblox: The Path to 150M+ Daily Users, Critical Business Decisions, Ketogenic Therapy for Brain Health, Daily Routines, the Roblox Economy, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show
- Kevin Kelly: Excellent Advice for Living | The Tim Ferriss Show
Timestamps:
- [00:00:00] Start.
- [00:00:52] Why Kevin concluded nearly seven months of sobriety, and the 2-2-2 Rule he now follows for alcohol consumption.
- [00:07:12] My recent adventures in accelerated TMS and bioelectric medicine.
- [00:21:09] The tragic death of Nolan Williams and funding future research through the Saisei Foundation.
- [00:24:23] Aphantasia vs. hyperphantasia, and Joshua Waitzkin’s ability to “feel” chess.
- [00:33:12] DORAs for sleep and Alzheimer’s prevention: Matt Walker, Belsomra, and the terrifying p-tau blood test.
- [00:41:21] Dale Bredesen’s kitchen-sink approach to dementia and the ketogenic connection.
- [00:46:22] The rapid pace of AI development: Why your opinion from three months ago is already obsolete.
- [00:49:40] Google’s full-stack advantage: TPUs, Gemini 3, and why they were built for this moment.
- [00:52:50] The future of venture capital: Seed rounds shift later as entrepreneurs gain leverage.
- [00:58:05] Kevin’s three AI investment buckets: Power, data centers, and bloated companies ripe for automation.
- [01:02:05] Holiday gift ideas and recommended reading.
- [01:17:41] The Way App and meditation with Zen master Henry Shukman.
- [01:21:44] Kevin’s AI stack: Nothing earbuds, Sandbar ring, Notion AI, and the NotebookLM podcast hack.
- [01:26:58] Oboe.fyi: The AI learning platform and my investment philosophy.
- [01:32:09] My new girlfriend, the perils of modern dating apps, and building a communication toolkit.
- [01:38:17] Terry Real’s relationship wisdom: Why objective reality has no place in an argument.
- [01:47:18] Dog updates: Molly, a new puppy, and Toaster on rapamycin.
- [01:47:58] Parting thoughts and happy holidays.
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Want to hear another episode where Kevin and I let our random flag fly? Listen to our conversation here, in which we discussed Kevin’s journey to 100 days sober, my best lab results in 10+ years from ketogenic diet and intermittent fasting, the vibe coding revolution transforming $250k projects into $50 experiments, home defense and security, GLP-1 agonists, the future of venture capital in an AI-driven landscape, and much more.




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Thanks Tim & Kevin, for another great episode. I’m very sorry to hear about Nolan, and I look forward to exploring his work.
I’m wondering if you’ve ever come across the work of Dr. Michael Persinger in your explorations of bioelectric medicine? He studied the effects of electromagnetic fields on consciousness and the brain, and is perhaps best known for his [Moderator: YouTube link to “Dr. Michael Persinger – The God Helmet on The Learning Channel” removed per embed policy.]
experiments. Unlike TMS, he used very weak EMF’s patterned on observed neurophysiological sources (as opposed to the strong pulses used in TMS). He was essentially mimicking the brain’s own EM activity patterns, and produced some interesting results.
I studied under him during my undergrad, and always found his work quite interesting. I’d love to know if it has wider implications, or if anyone else is currently taking a similar approach.
Thanks again and all the best,
JT
Hi Tim-Tim,
listening to your conversation I just wanted to give you a perspective from Poland on taking days off for medical or other treatment.
In Poland we get around 26 days of paid holidays each year. What you’re telling Kev about many people not being able to take 5 days off work (for such an important reason) sounds as foreign as anything else to me. Listening to you, it sounds like it’s as if this was a ‘given’.
On the other hand, I can definitely see myself taking 5 days off for a good reason. Without it impacting my holiday or family plans or my performance at work too much.
It’s amazing how perspectives differ. It makes me appreciate how things work around here and reminds me to question my assumptions.
Sending you all the love and respect I can!
Chris
As per usual, such a great episode…I had to listen to it twice. Plus, you solved 80% of my holiday shopping. I’m working on a rather esoteric exhibit of fabric art of historical relevance, and Oboe gave me a course to go deeper. Can’t wait for the future iterations!
I learned I have aphantasia. Mind blown. Not sure I was ready for that.
Thank you gentlemen! Every time I see a new Random Show my day will be greatly improved. Thanks for all you do and share!
Aphantasia is a fascinating subject and opens up a whole range of different thinking modalities, such as having no inner voice. It’s something that is often overlooked in learning & development; I wonder how many people have been held back because of the mismatch between how they think and how they were taught? For example, I score 1 out of 5 on the Apple Test, and tools like the ‘memory palace’ are completely useless for me.
Gonna go with the Hi Tim-Tim
ty @KW
Tim – heard you talk about your new relationship. I also started a new relationship at a more mature age. We came into it differently and ended up having Eval Weekends (TM ala Dan Carlin lol) every 3 months to tune up, evaluate and focus on our relationship. We have now had more than 25. Amazing. If you want to know more about how we do these weekends, please let us know and we will share.
With a hug and kind regards.