
“Hope is everything.”
— Reed Hastings
Reed Hastings (@reedhastings) became executive chairman of Netflix in 2023, after 25 years as CEO. He co-founded Netflix in 1997. In 1991, Reed founded Pure Software, which made tools for software developers. After a 1995 IPO and several acquisitions, Pure was acquired by Rational Software in 1997. Reed is an active educational philanthropist and served on the California State Board of Education from 2000 to 2004. He is currently on the board of several educational organizations including KIPP and Pahara. Reed is also a board member of City Fund and Bloomberg.
He received a BA from Bowdoin College in 1983 and an MS CS in artificial intelligence from Stanford University in 1988. Between Bowdoin and Stanford, Reed served in the Peace Corps as a high-school math teacher.
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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Connect with Reed Hastings:
Powder Mountain | Twitter | LinkedIn
- Tuxedo Park: A Wall Street Tycoon and the Secret Palace of Science That Changed the Course of World War II by Jennet Conant | Amazon
- Radio History: The Rise, Fall, and Resurrection of LORAN | Mini-Circuits Blog
- Stock Market Crash of 1929 | Federal Reserve History
- Subprime Mortgage Crisis | Federal Reserve History
- The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine by MIchael Lewis | Amazon
- Memento | Prime Video
- Risk Tolerance: It’s in Your DNA | University of California San Diego
- Jeff Bezos Explains One-Way Door Decisions and Two-Way Door Decisions (Clip) | Lex Fridman Podcast #405
- Free Solo | Prime Video
- Why Culture Matters with Netflix’s Reed Hastings | Masters of Scale #8
- Netflix Culture — Seeking Excellence | Netflix
- How Netflix Reinvented HR | Harvard Business Review
- Ozark | Netflix
- Pure Software | Wikipedia
- Beginner’s Guide to Java | Microsoft Azure
- Epic Pass | Vail Resorts
- Multi Resort Ski Passes | Ikon Pass
- Radical Candor: Fully Revised and Updated Edition: How to Get What You Want by Saying What You Mean by Kim Scott | Amazon
- I Think You’re Fat by A.J. Jacobs | Esquire
- Reed Hastings and John Doerr: Building an Iconic Company | Kleiner Perkins
- Blitzscaling: The Lightning-Fast Path to Building Massively Valuable Companies by Reid Hoffman and Chris Yeh | Amazon
- Reed Hastings On Netflix’s Biggest Mistake | Forbes
- Farming for Dissent | The Condorsay Newsletter
- No Rules Rules: Netflix and the Culture of Reinvention by Reed Hastings and Erin Meyer | Amazon
- Netflix vs. Blockbuster — The Official Case Study | Drift
- Vintage Calgonite Commercial (1970s) | YouTube
- TED 2018: Netflix Sees Itself as the Anti-Apple | Wired
- Reed Hastings: Netflix Future, Hardest Keeper Test, Lessons From Book | Variety
- Beyond Entrepreneurship: Turning Your Business into an Enduring Great Company by James Collins and William C. Lazier | Amazon
- Jim Collins on The Value of Small Gestures, Unseen Sources of Power, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show #483
- Jim Collins — A Rare Interview with a Reclusive Polymath | The Tim Ferriss Show #361
- Why Is Rinsing Your Cottage Cheese Important? | Dan Greer
- The Five Dysfunctions of a Team: A Leadership Fable by Patrick Lencioni | Amazon
- The Advantage: Why Organizational Health Trumps Everything Else in Business by Patrick Lencioni | Amazon
- Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari | Amazon
- The Overstory: A Novel by Richard Powers | Amazon
- I Am Woman | Prime Video
- Helen Reddy: I Am Woman (Video) | YouTube
- Netflix at 20: Let’s Revisit the Failure of Qwikster | Quartz
- Netflix CEO Reed Hastings Apologizes for Mishandling the Change to Qwikster | YouTube
- Netflix Apology | Saturday Night Live
- 24 Lessons from Jeff Bezos’ Annual Letters to Shareholders | CB Insights Research
- Where Does Netflix Go from Here? With CEO Reed Hastings | New York Times Events
- Goldilocks Principle | Wikipedia
- Wasatch Peaks Ranch
- Skiing | Yellowstone National Park Lodges
- What is Cat Skiing? (Quickly Explained) | The Ski Girl
- Salt Lake City International Airport to Powder Mountain | Google Maps
- Eden, Utah | Visit Ogden
- Warren Buffett Was ‘Terrified’ of Public Speaking and Took Three Steps to Conquer His Fear | Inc.com
- What Are Index Funds, and How Do They Work? | Investopedia
- 35. Amateurs Should Stick With Low-Cost Index Funds | 2008 Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting
- Reed Hastings Creates $100 Million Education Fund | Philanthropy News Digest
- KIPP Public Charter Schools
- Support a Classroom. Build a Future. | DonorsChoose
- QuestBridge
- Waiting For Superman | Prime Video
- Understanding Charter Schools vs. Public Schools | US News
- Why Can’t Charter Schools and Teachers’ Unions Be Friends? | Pacific Standard
- Reed Hastings’ Philanthropic Efforts and Social Impact | Pressfarm
- Make the Most of Your World | Peace Corps
- Summary of Reed Hastings’ Interview with Stanford Graduate School of Business | r/Entrepreneur
- The Three Qualities of the Most Effective Team Players | TED
SHOW NOTES
- [06:34] Alfred Lee Loomis and Tuxedo Park.
- [07:53] Risk tolerance: nature or nurture?
- [10:56] Cultivating culture that “eats strategy for lunch.”
- [15:41] The logic behind generous severance.
- [17:02] Adapting to Pure chaos.
- [18:44] Reference checking potential hires.
- [20:29] Context vs. control.
- [22:35] Radical candor.
- [24:15] Guardrails for maintaining work/life balance.
- [27:04] Farming for dissent.
- [28:39] Believing in the green crystals.
- [30:54] High-performance team, not family.
- [31:59] The keeper test.
- [32:49] Fire and replace, or replace and fire?
- [33:59] Beyond Entrepreneurship and other recommended reading/viewing.
- [37:46] A favorite failure.
- [40:32] Outstanding leaders.
- [41:10] Reed’s two “religions.”
- [42:19] Powder Mountain.
- [44:44] How Powder Mountain differs from Reed’s other projects.
- [46:24] Powder Mountain’s biggest challenges ahead.
- [47:02] Could Reed ever really retire?
- [47:19] Best investments of time, energy, or money.
- [48:49] How can we improve education in the US?
- [52:48] What class would Reed teach?
- [53:59] Juggling projects without losing focus.
- [55:04] Philanthropy: Why Africa?
- [55:32] Being “big-hearted champions who pick up the trash.”
- [56:28] Reed’s billboard.
- [58:01] Parting thoughts.
MORE REED HASTINGS QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW
“I’m in the camp that culture eats strategy for lunch. … How do you get human beings to work well together and accomplish amazing things? One of the aspects of that is being around other incredible performers.”
— Reed Hastings
“Customers would love to have everything for free. The challenge is to have great customer satisfaction and to charge them enough to have growing operating income. And that constraint is what makes business challenging, fun, and exciting.”
— Reed Hastings
“The few times I’ve done investing, I’ve lost my shirt. And I realize I’m just so optimistic. Anybody who seems to have a good idea, I’m like, ‘Sure!’”
— Reed Hastings
“Hope is everything.”
— Reed Hastings




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For me, this was the second…”worst” (for lack of a better word) interview you’ve had. Your guest never really warmed up like most others you have on the podcast. Reed’s responses to you felt stiff and constrained, like he treated it as an interrogation and didn’t trust you. You tried but it just didn’t seem like you could turn the corner with him. I’d almost chalk it up to his having to do quarterly investor calls with attorneys reigning him in, but those calls in the past were evidently fairly freewheeling by contrast.
I found it very helpful. It might not have been as warm and fuzzy, but I thought it was very focused and dense, with specific tactical advice. I found it helpful as a VC and as a founder coach. His insights into the culture deck, and how he has evolved it for his newco with more focus on humanity was interesting. I do feel there is room for a sequel to this. Perhaps with some more insights into his relationships and parenting, which I found also insightful. M