
This is a special compilation devoted to a subject very close to my heart and currently consuming a large percentage of my waking hours: writing. Over the years, I’ve asked some of the writers I admire most questions like: How do you choose a project and stay with it? How do you begin when inspiration refuses to show up? How do you build a practice that reliably produces pages? And how do you keep going when you fear your pages are terrible? Listen in to some of my favorite authors answer these and other questions. Please enjoy this special compilation on the craft of writing.
Please enjoy!
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Transcripts
- This episode (coming soon)
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Show Notes
Connect with Elizabeth Gilbert:
Website | Bluesky | Facebook | Instagram | Newsletter
Elizabeth’s appearances on the podcast: 770, 430
Connect with Anne Lamott:
X | Bluesky | Facebook | Instagram
Anne’s appearance on the podcast: 522
Connect with Joyce Carol Oates:
X | Bluesky | Facebook | Newsletter
Joyce’s appearance on the podcast: 497
Connect with Jerry Seinfeld:
Website | X | Facebook | Instagram
Jerry’s appearance on the podcast: 485
Connect with Mary Karr:
Website | X | Bluesky | Facebook | Instagram
Mary’s appearance on the podcast: 479
Connect with Brandon Sanderson:
Website | X | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube
Brandon’s appearance on the podcast: 794
Connect with Seth Godin:
Website | Seth’s Blog | X | Bluesky | Facebook | Instagram
Seth’s appearances on the podcast: 792, 476, 402, 343, 177, 138
Books
- Eat, Pray, Love: One Woman’s Search for Everything Across Italy, India, and Indonesia by Elizabeth Gilbert
- Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear by Elizabeth Gilbert
- City of Girls: A Novel by Elizabeth Gilbert
- Bird by Bird: Some Instructions on Writing and Life by Anne Lamott
- Operating Instructions: A Journal of My Son’s First Year by Anne Lamott
- Help, Thanks, Wow: The Three Essential Prayers by Anne Lamott
- Good Writing: 36 Ways to Improve Your Sentences by Neal Allen and Anne Lamott
- Shapes of Truth: Discover God Inside You by Neal Allen
- Blonde: A Novel by Joyce Carol Oates
- We Were the Mulvaneys by Joyce Carol Oates
- Them by Joyce Carol Oates
- The Liars’ Club: A Memoir by Mary Karr
- Cherry by Mary Karr
- Lit: A Memoir (P.S.) by Mary Karr
- The Art of Memoir by Mary Karr
- One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez
- The Mistborn Saga: Mistborn, The Well of Ascension, The Hero of Ages, The Alloy of Law, Shadows of Self, The Bands of Mourning, and The Lost Metal by Brandon Sanderson
- The Stormlight Archive Series: The Way of Kings, Words of Radiance, Oathbringer, Rhythm of War, and Wind and Truth by Brandon Sanderson
- The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan
- On Writing by Stephen King
- How to Write Science Fiction and Fantasy by Orson Scott Card
- Is This Anything? by Jerry Seinfeld
- Body for Life: 12 Weeks to Mental and Physical Strength by Bill Phillips and Michael D’Orso
- Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable by Seth Godin
- Linchpin: Are You Indispensable? by Seth Godin
- The Practice: Shipping Creative Work by Seth Godin
- Permission Marketing: Turning Strangers into Friends and Friends into Customers by Seth Godin
- The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference by Malcolm Gladwell
Recommended Reading, Listening, & Viewing
- What is Internal Family Systems? | IFS Institute
- Anne Lamott and Bird by Bird Background | SparkNotes
- Shut Down Station KFKD | Workplace Navigator
- Joyce Carol Oates: The Art of Fiction No. 72 | The Paris Review
- A Personalized Journey to Inner Peace, Clarity, and Wellness | Transcendental Meditation (TM)
- Mary Karr Interview: Boss of Memoir | The Writer
- Brandon Sanderson’s Lectures on Writing Fantasy | BYU
- Notes on Brandon’s Sci-Fi and Fantasy Creative Writing Course | Grant Skaggs
- George R.R. Martin on the Two Types of Writers | Aegon Targaryen
- Tools, Not Rules. For Writers, by Writers. | Writing Excuses
- Seth Godin: How Isaac Asimov Wrote 400+ Books | Rich Roll Podcast
- Nike ‘Just Do It’ Slogan Inspired by Utah Spree Killer Gary Gilmore | Business Insider
Movies & TV
- Bird by Bird with Anne
- The Sopranos
- Dr. Phil
- Seinfeld
- Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee
- The Black Stallion
People
- Sam Lamott
- Tony Soprano
- Neal Allen
- E.L. Doctorow
- Philip Roth
- Gustave Flaubert
- Steven Soderbergh
- William Shakespeare
- Bill Phillips
- Phil McGraw
- Don DeLillo
- Leo Tolstoy
- Dana Spiotta
- Robert Jordan
- Stephen King
- Orson Scott Card
- George R.R. Martin
- Isaac Asimov
- Gary Gilmore
- Charles Manson
- Malcolm Gladwell
- Kevin Kelly
Timestamps
- [00:00:00] Start.
- [00:01:52] Elizabeth Gilbert: Choosing the project, committing to it.
- [00:06:25] Anne Lamott: Shitty first drafts, bird by bird.
- [00:13:03] Joyce Carol Oates: Don’t wait for mood, just work.
- [00:15:47] Jerry Seinfeld: The session, the alarm, the system.
- [00:26:27] Mary Karr: Revision, throwing out 1,200 pages.
- [00:35:07] Brandon Sanderson: Consistency, word counts, output.
- [00:45:04] Seth Godin: Bad writing can’t persist if you do enough of it.
Quotations from This Episode
“Meditation, spirituality, and art have so much in common.”
— Elizabeth Gilbert
“All first drafts of any book you’ve ever read by the authors you esteem most began as unreadable first drafts.”
— Anne Lamott
“Life doesn’t have to be so overthought. You don’t have to wait to be inspired. Just start working.”
— Joyce Carol Oates
“Nobody writes all day. Shakespeare can’t write all day. It’s torture.”
— Jerry Seinfeld
“Every writer I know has written a bad book. So maybe it’s just going to be a bad book, but it’s the book that’s standing in line to be written.”
— Mary Karr
“Most people are better served by writing a certain amount every day really consistently, or at least two or three times a week, and building a novel out of good habits.”
— Brandon Sanderson
“Bad writing over time, if you do enough of it, can’t persist. Good writing will slip through. I learned this from Isaac Asimov … [who] published 400 books back when it was hard to publish a book.”
— Seth Godin
Want to hear another episode with someone who has spent a lifetime wrestling the demon of the blank page? Listen to my conversation with novelist and The War of Art author Steven Pressfield, in which we discussed overcoming “Resistance with a capital R,” the many faces of self-sabotage, his journey from blue-collar truck driver to bestselling novelist, the hero’s journey versus the artist’s journey, morning routines and a “little successes” approach, shadow careers, why the process that works for Joyce Carol Oates might be all wrong for you, fear-setting, and much more.
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