“Suffering is a path to our greatness.”
— Chatri Sityodtong
Chatri Sityodtong (@yodchatri) is the founder and CEO of ONE (you might know it as ONE Championship), one of the top-10 biggest sports-media properties in the world in terms of viewership and engagement (alongside the NBA, Formula One, Champions League, and Premier League), with a global broadcast reach to 195 countries.
The largest sports-media property in Asia, ONE is also a celebration of Asia’s great cultural treasure martial arts. Chatri himself has more than 40 years of martial arts experience. He is a certified senior Muay Thai instructor under the legendary Kru Yodtong Senanan, and he holds a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Master Renzo Gracie. In 2019, he was inducted into the Black Belt Hall of Fame.
Chatri holds an MBA from Harvard Business School and a BA from Tufts University.
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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
The transcript of this episode can be found here. Transcripts of all episodes can be found here.
- Connect with Chatri Sityodtong:
Website | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn
- Connect with ONE Championship:
Website | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Threads | YouTube | TikTok
Companies, Institutions, and Organizations
- ONE Championship
- Evolve MMA
- Sityodtong Camp/Gym
- Fairtex Gym
- Harvard University
- NextDoor Networks (Chatri’s first startup)
- Kaplan
- Shooto
- Pancrase
- Renzo Gracie Academy
- NFL
- NBA
- NASCAR
- MLB
- F1
- UEFA Champions League
- Premier League
- Bundesliga
- UFC
- Yakuza
- University of Tokyo
- Facebook/Meta
- Sequoia Capital
- Rippledot Capital
- CAA (Creative Artists Agency)
- Amazon Prime Video
- Sky Sports
- ESPN
- Milken Institute
- Pride Fighting Championships
- K-1
- Qatar Investment Authority
- Singapore Government
- Nielsen
- Toyota
- Shopify
- Pixar
- Spotify
- Marcelo Garcia Jiu-Jitsu
- Middlebury Language School
Books and Magazines
- One Up On Wall Street: How to Use What You Already Know to Make Money in the Market by Peter Lynch
- The Intelligent Investor: The Definitive Book on Value Investing by Benjamin Graham
- The Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum
- Tao of Jeet Kune Do: New Expanded Edition by Bruce Lee
- The 32 Principles: Harnessing the Power of Jiu-Jitsu to Succeed in Business, Relationships, and Life by Rener Gracie
- High Output Management by Andy Grove
- Creativity, Inc.: Overcoming the Unseen Forces That Stand in the Way of True Inspiration by Ed Catmull
- Kakuto-Gi Tsushin
Martial Arts Disciplines
- Muay Thai
- Boxing
- Wrestling
- Jiu-Jitsu (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu / BJJ)
- Judo
- Sanchou / Sanshou / Sanda
- Kickboxing
- Karate
- Aikido
- Kendo
- Mixed Martial Arts (MMA)
- Submission Grappling
- Lethwei
Events & Competitions
- All-Japan Judo Championships (Held at the Budokan)
- Pancrase: Bas Rutten vs. Masakatsu Funaki, 1996
- The Super Bowl
- The Olympic Games
- FIFA World Cup
- Extreme Fighting Championship (EFC)
- Renzo Gracie vs. Oleg Taktarov
- ADCC (Abu Dhabi Combat Club Submission Wrestling World Championship)
People
- Kru Yodtong Senanan
- Bunkerd Fairtex
- Anh Fairtex
- Jongsanan Fairtex
- Thaworn Trisiripisal
- Michiyo Komatsu
- Takeru Segawa
- Rodtang Jitmuangnon
- Peter Lynch
- Warren Buffett
- Benjamin Graham
- Soon Loo
- Richard Armstrong
- Renzo Gracie
- Bas Rutten
- Masakatsu Funaki
- Satoru Sayama
- Rodrigo Gracie
- Rumina Sato
- Kazuhiro Sakamoto
- Mike Moritz
- Douglas Leone
- Mark Zuckerberg
- Matt Hume
- Rich Franklin
- Tye Ruotolo
- Kade Ruotolo
- Floyd Mayweather
- Rocky Balboa
- Stamp Fairtex
- Naomi Osaka
- Roelof Botha
- Shailendra Singh
- Atin Kukreja
- Bill Gates
- Fabian Stechel
- Hassan Al-Thawadi
- Demetrious Johnson
- Andy Grove
- Rener Gracie
- Bruce Lee
- Nick Vujicic
- Ed Catmull
- Tang Kai
- Oleg Taktarov
- Kazushi Sakuraba
- Ernesto Hoost
- Saenchai
- Fedor Emelianenko
- Ramon Dekkers
- Rob Kaman
- Jonathan Haggerty
- Liam Harrison
- Nadaka Yoshinari
- Mike Tyson
- Muhammad Ali
- Wanderlei Silva
- Quinton “Rampage” Jackson
- Marcelo Garcia
- Josh Waitzkin
- Dana White
Places
- Singapore
- Thailand
- Bangkok, Thailand
- Lumpinee Stadium
- Rajadamnern Stadium
- Pattaya, Thailand
- United States
- Silicon Valley, California
- New York City, New York
- Morris Hall, Harvard University
- Albuquerque, New Mexico
- Japan
- Tokyo, Japan
- Saitama Super Arena
- Nippon Budokan
- Denver, Colorado
- Ball Arena
- Impact Arena
- Qatar
- Doha, Qatar
- Philippines
- Manila, Philippines
- China
- Bang Phli, Thailand
- Abu Dhabi, UAE
Relevant Resources
- Chatri’s Triumphant Tale of Overcoming Adversity Detailed in New Short Biopic ‘I Am a Warrior’ | The Nation
- The Chatri Sityodtong Story | I Am A Warrior
- Buddhist Funeral Customs | Dignity Funerals
- “That’s His Dream” — Chatri Reveals What’s Next for Takeru After Shocking Knockout Loss to Rodtang | Sportskeeda
- ONE 172: Drama Behind the Scenes | ONE Championship
- Hanmen Kyōshi | Wiktionary
- How a Former Hedge Fund Manager Launched One Championship, an MMA Promotion Pushing Into the US | Forbes
- Bushido | Wikipedia
- Yamato Damashii – The Spirit of Japan and Kyokushin Karate | The Martial Way
- The Birth of a Martial Arts Revolution | Chatri Sityodtong
- Exclusive: Chatri Sityodtong on Showcasing “Real-Life Superheroes” at ONE 168 | Sports Illustrated
- Learn How to Calculate the Total Addressable Market (TAM) | CFI
- This CEO Says He Only Hires PhDs, But Not the PhDs You’re Thinking Of | Inc.
- ONE Championship Raises US Profile | The Japan Times
- Three Reasons Why Floyd Mayweather’s 50–0 Record Cannot Be Broken in Boxing History | EssentiallySports
- Six Sigma | Wikipedia
- Rock ‘Em Sock Em Robots | Amazon
- Measure Your Striking Power with Cutting-Edge Precision | PowerKube
- How to Increase Your Luck Surface Area | Codus Operandi
- G-SHOCK | CASIO
- How Will You Be Remembered? | Chatri Sityodtong
- Broadcast TV Reach of Global Sports Properties | Instagram
- ONE Featherweight World Champion Tang Kai | Instagram
- RE: Deep Fake Scams on Social Media | Twitter
- The Marcelotine by Marcelo Garcia | BJJ Fanatics
SHOW NOTES
- [00:00:00] Start.
- [00:06:49] Chatri Trisiripisal vs. Yodchatri Sityodtong
- [00:08:35] My own experience with Muay Thai.
- [00:10:05] Chatri’s introduction to Muay Thai.
- [00:10:58] Chatri processes the strained relationship with his father.
- [00:17:28] Fight Porn and my introduction to ONE.
- [00:18:56] A pep talk in Japanese.
- [00:23:00] Chatri’s secret life in a Harvard dorm with his mother on $4 a day.
- [00:30:11] How Chatri made the money to fuel his martial arts ambitions.
- [00:35:19] Why wealth has never provided Chatri with a sense of security.
- [00:38:43] The moment Chatri began to fulfill one his mother’s prophecies.
- [00:41:08] “To unleash your greatness, you must be surrounded by greatness.”
- [00:44:56] Witnessing Yamato-damashii: the Japanese warrior spirit.
- [00:48:43] Moving to Singapore and starting Evolve.
- [00:51:59] Overcoming ONE’s initial financial challenges.
- [01:03:06] Building ONE with Bushido-grade excellence.
- [01:08:25] How ONE maintains quality and quantity fights and fighters.
- [01:16:05] Leveraging social media to bring compelling human stories to ONE’s forefront.
- [01:26:40] Chatri’s $100 million breakfast with Sequoia Capital.
- [01:41:42] Making deals with CAA’s Fabian Stechel.
- [01:45:13] A serendipitous meeting that resulted in investment from Qatar.
- [01:47:51] Changing lives and building relationships across generations with martial arts.
- [01:51:35] Recommended reading and admirable storytellers.
- [02:01:03] A gracious invitation.
- [02:02:39] Where in the world is ONE enjoyed most?
- [02:07:14] Dealing with AI development and deep fakes.
- [02:08:45] Global broadcasting business from behind the scenes.
- [02:16:31] Funds raised and the competitive benefits of being early in the game.
- [02:19:30] Fond regards for Renzo Gracie.
- [02:23:49] Legendary fighters we would love to witness in their prime.
- [02:26:27] High marks for Marcelo Garcia.
- [02:29:23] How I learned what Chatri calls “flawless” Japanese.
- [02:31:16] Chatri’s billboard and parting thoughts.
MORE CHATRI SITYODTONG QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW
“Suffering is a path to our greatness.”
— Chatri Sityodtong
“You never know what is good luck or bad luck until many years later, when you discover what the lessons were of that experience.”
— Chatri Sityodtong
“If you’re fighting for yourself — you’re fighting because you want a six-figure salary, you’re fighting because you want to buy a nice car — it’s very easy to quit. But when you’re fighting for something bigger than yourself, it’s impossible to quit.”
— Chatri Sityodtong
“I truly believe my grandmaster, Kru Yodtong Senanan, who used to always tell me — I never really understood it until much later in life — ‘To unleash your greatness, you must be surrounded by greatness.’”
— Chatri Sityodtong
“In society, I’m a CEO, but when I’m in training, I’m a nobody. These guys beat on me, but it levels me up. It’s a daily reminder to me that I’m here to learn, grow, and evolve and be the very best martial artist I can be.”
— Chatri Sityodtong
“Love, pain, and suffering. That combination can work magic in terms of unleashing human potential. You will discover things about yourself that you never even knew existed in you.”
— Chatri Sityodtong




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Really enjoyed the interview with Chatri and hearing his story. I was struck by something when he spoke about Qatar, the World Cup, and his relationship with the Qatari official. There are reports that up to 6,500 migrant construction workers died in the construction of the World Cup stadiums along with many other charges of abuse of these migrant workers. How does Chatri reconcile his stated goal of helping others, which I believe is genuine, with these reports? I am a lifelong soccer player and fan and watched every World Cup game I possibly could so I struggled with this myself. This isn’t intended to be a “gotcha” question and I’m not accusing Chatri of anything. I genuinely am interested in how he thinks about issues such as this.
Hi Tim, long-time listener, first-time commenter! And I’ve probably broken a golden rule, as this is unrelated to this podcast. BUT I was listening to this and thought of you… I know how busy you are, so I suggest listening from around 35 minutes in for about 10 minutes or so (although the whole podcast is interesting). Hopefully, you’ll see why I thought this would be up your alley. A bit of background – Harry Meade, event rider and all-round good bloke, very low key and extremely modest, has just become world number 1. I kept thinking if you’d interview him, you’d be able to get so many gems… Anyway, if you find the time, enjoy!
Long time listener/follower. Re:This week’s 5-bullet Friday. Just wanted to send my appreciation for your shout out to Sevendust! Not only that but selecting a deep cut track from their earlier stuff (specifically the album Home, one of my favs).
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Hi Tim. I have a guest Suggestion for your podcast: Verne Harnish – Mastering the Playbook of Scale. I wanted to recommend someone I believe would make for a rich, high-signal conversation: Verne Harnish, founder of EO and author of Scaling Up, a book that’s become required reading for entrepreneurs serious about growth.
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If it’s of interest, I’d be happy to connect you with Verne’s team or provide more details.
Appreciate all you do,