
In this post, I’m going to talk about suicide, and why I’m still on this planet.
These are stories I’ve kept secret from my family, girlfriends, and closest friends for years. Recently, however, I had an experience that shook me—woke me up—and I decided that it was time to share it all.
So, despite the shame I might feel, the fear that is making my palms sweat as I type this, allow me to get started.
Here we go…
A TWIST OF FATE
“Could you please sign this for my brother? It would mean a lot to him.”
He was a kind fan. There were perhaps a dozen people around me asking questions, and he had politely waited his turn. The ask: A simple signature.
It was Friday night, around 7pm, and a live recording of the TWiST podcast had just ended. There was electricity in the air. Jason Calacanis, the host and interviewer, sure knows how to put on a show. He’d hyped up the crowd and kept things rolling for more than 2 hours on stage, asking me every imaginable question. The venue—Pivotal Labs’ offices in downtown SF—had been packed to capacity. Now, more than 200 people were milling about, drinking wine, or heading off for their weekends.
A handful of attendees gathered near the mics for pics and book inscriptions.
“Anything in particular you’d like me to say to him? To your brother?” I asked this one gent, who was immaculately dressed in a suit. His name was Silas.
He froze for few seconds but kept eye contact. I saw his eyes flutter. There was something unusual that I couldn’t put a finger on.
I decided to take the pressure off: “I’m sure I can come up with something. Are you cool with that?” Silas nodded.
I wrote a few lines, added a smiley face, signed the book he’d brought, and handed it back. He thanked me and backed out of the crowd. I waived and returned to chatting with the others.
Roughly 30 minutes later, I had to run. My girlfriend had just landed at SFO and I needed to meet her for dinner. I started walking towards the elevators.
“Excuse me, Tim?” It was Silas. He’d been waiting for me. “Can I talk to you for a second?”
“Sure,” I said, “but walk with me.”
We meandered around tables and desks to the relative privacy of the elevator vestibule, and I hit the Down button. As soon as Silas started his story, I forgot about the elevator.
He apologized for freezing earlier, for not having an answer. His younger brother–the one I signed the book for–had recently committed suicide. He was 22.
“He looked up to you,” Silas explained, “He loved listening to you and Joe Rogan. I wanted to get your signature for him. I’m going to put this in his room.” He gestured to the book. I could see tears welling up in his eyes, and I felt my own doing the same. He continued.
“People listen to you. Have you ever thought about talking about these things? About suicide or depression? You might be able to save someone.” Now, it was my turn to stare at him blankly. I didn’t know what to say.
I also didn’t have an excuse. Unbeknownst to him, I had every reason to talk about suicide. I’d only skimmed the surface with a few short posts about depression.
Some of my closest high school friends killed themselves.
Some of my closest college friends killed themselves.
I almost killed myself.
“I’m so sorry for your loss,” I said to Silas. I wondered if he’d waited more than three hours just to tell me this. I suspected he had. Good for him. He had bigger balls than I. Certainly, I’d failed his brother by being such a coward in my writing. How many others had I failed? These questions swam in my mind.
“I will write about this” I said to Silas, awkwardly patting his shoulder. I was thrown off. “I promise.”
And with that, I got into the elevator.
INTO THE DARKNESS
“They tried to bury us. They didn’t know we were seeds.” – Mexican proverb
There are some secrets we don’t share because they’re embarrassing.
Like that time I met an icon by accidentally hitting on his girlfriend at a coffee shop? That’s a good one (Sorry, N!). Or the time a celebrity panelist borrowed my laptop to project a boring corporate video, and a flicker of porn popped up–a la Fight Club–in front of a crowd of 400 people? Another good example.
But then there are dark secrets. The things we tell no one. The shadows we keep covered for fear of unraveling our lives.
For me, 1999 was full of shadows.
So much so that I never wanted to revisit them.
I hadn’t talked about this traumatic period publicly until last week, first in a reddit AMA (Ask Me Anything), then in greater depth on Derek Halpern’s podcast.
What follows is the sequence of my downward spiral.
Reading the below, it’s incredible how trivial some of it seems in retrospect. At the time, though, it was the perfect storm.
I include wording like “impossible situation,” which was reflective of my thinking at the time, not objective reality.
I still vividly recall these events, but any quotes are paraphrased. Please also excuse any grammatical/tense errors, as it was hard for me to put this down. So, starting where it began…
- It’s my senior year at Princeton. I’m slated to graduate around June of 1999. Somewhere in the first six months, several things happen in the span of a few weeks:
- I fail to make it to final interviews for McKinsey Consulting and Trilogy Software, in addition to others. I have no idea what I’m doing wrong, and I start losing confidence after “winning” in the game of academics for so long.
- A long-term (for a college kid, anyway) girlfriend breaks up with me shortly thereafter. Not because of the job stuff, but because I became more insecure during that period, wanted more time with her, and was massively disruptive to her final varsity sports season. What’s wrong with me?
- I have a fateful meeting with one of my thesis advisors in the East Asian Studies department. Having read a partial draft of my work, he presents a large stack of original research in Japanese for me to incorporate. I walk out with my head spinning — how am I going to finish this thesis (which generally run 60-100 pages or more) before graduation? What am I going to do?
It’s important to note that at Princeton, the senior thesis is largely viewed as the pinnacle of your four-year undergrad career. That’s reflected in its grading. The thesis is often worth around 25% of your entire departmental GPA (English department example here).
After all of the above, things continued as follows…
- I find a rescue option! In the course of researching language learning for the thesis, I’m introduced to a wonderful PhD who works at Berlitz International. Bernie was his name. We have a late dinner one night on Witherspoon Street in Princeton. He speaks multiple languages and is a nerd, just like me. One hour turns into two, which turns into three. At the end, he says, “You know, it’s too bad you’re graduating in a few months. I have a project that would be perfect for you, but it’s starting sooner.” This could be exactly the solution I’m looking for!
- I chat with my parents about potentially taking a year off, beginning in the middle of my senior year. This would allow me time to finish and polish the thesis, while simultaneously testing jobs in the “real world.” It seems like a huge win-win, and my parents— to their credit —are hugely supportive.
- The Princeton powers OK the idea, and I meet with the aforementioned thesis advisor to inform him of my decision. Instead of being happy that I’m taking time to get the thesis right (what I expected), he seems furious: “So you’re just going to quit?! To cop out?! This better be the best thesis I’ve ever seen in my life.” In my stressed out state, and in the exchange that follows, I hear a series of thinly veiled threats and ultimatums… but no professor would actually do that, right? The meeting ends with a dismissive laugh and a curt “Good luck.” I’m crushed and wander out in a daze.
- Once I’ve regained my composure, my shock turns to anger. How could a thesis advisor threaten a student with a bad grade just because they’re taking time off? I knew my thesis wouldn’t be “the best thesis” he’d ever seen, so it was practically a guarantee of a bad grade, even if I did a great job. This would be obvious to anyone, right?
- I meet with multiple people in the Princeton administration, and the response is — simply put — “He wouldn’t do that.” I’m speechless. Am I being called a liar? Why would I lie? What was my incentive? It seemed like no one was willing to rock the boat with a senior (I think tenured) professor. I’m speechless and feel betrayed. Faculty politics matter more than I do.
- I leave my friends behind at school and move off campus to work — I find out remotely — for Berlitz. “Remote” means I end up working at home by myself. This is a recipe for disaster. The work is rewarding, but I spend all of my non-work time — from when I wake to when I go to bed — looking at hundreds of pages of thesis notes and research spread out on my bedroom floor. It’s an uncontainable mess.
- After 2-3 months of attempting to incorporate my advisor’s original-language Japanese research, the thesis is a disaster. Despite (or perhaps because of) staring at paper alone for 8-16 hours a day, it’s a Frankenstein’s monster of false starts, dead ends, and research that shouldn’t be there in the first place. Totally unusable. I am, without a doubt, in worse shape than when I left school.
- My friends are graduating, celebrating, and leaving Princeton behind. I am sitting in a condo off campus, trapped in an impossible situation. My thesis work is going nowhere, and even if it turns out spectacular, I have (in my mind) a vindictive advisor who’s going to burn me. By burning me, he’ll destroy everything I’ve sacrificed for since high school: great grades in high school got me to Princeton, great grades in Princeton should get me to a dream job, etc. By burning me, he’ll make Princeton’s astronomical tuition wasted money, nothing more than a small fortune my family has pissed away. I start sleeping in until 2 or 3pm. I can’t face the piles of unfinished work surrounding me. My coping mechanism is to cover myself in sheets, minimize time awake, and hope for a miracle.
- No miracle arrives. Then one afternoon, as I’m wandering through a Barnes and Noble with no goal in particular, I chance upon a book about suicide. Right there in front of me on a display table. Perhaps this is the “miracle”? I sit down and read the entire book, taking copious notes into a journal, including other books listed in the bibliography. For the first time in ages, I’m excited about research. In a sea of uncertainty and hopeless situations, I feel like I’ve found hope: the final solution.
- I return to Princeton campus. This time, I go straight to Firestone Library to check out all of the suicide-related books on my to-do list. One particularly promising-sounding title is out, so I reserve it. I’ll be next in line when it comes back. I wonder what poor bastard is reading it, and if they’ll be able to return it.
- It’s important to mention here that, by this point, I was past deciding. The decision was obvious to me. I’d somehow failed, painted myself into this ridiculous corner, wasted a fortune on a school that didn’t care about me, and what would be the point of doing otherwise? To repeat these types of mistakes forever? To be a hopeless burden to myself and my family and friends? Fuck that. The world was better off without a loser who couldn’t figure this basic shit out. What would I ever contribute? Nothing. So the decision was made, and I was in full-on planning mode.
- In this case, I was dangerously good at planning. I had 4-6 scenarios all spec’d out, start to finish, including collaborators and covers when needed. And that’s when I got the phone call.
- [My mom?! That wasn’t in the plan.]
- I’d forgotten that Firestone Library now had my family home address on file, as I’d technically taken a year of absence. This meant a note was mailed to my parents, something along the lines of “Good news! The suicide book you requested is now available at the library for pick up!”
- Oops (and thank fucking God).
- Suddenly caught on the phone with my mom, I was unprepared. She nervously asked about the book, so I thought fast and lied: “Oh, no need to worry about that. Sorry! One of my friends goes to Rutgers and didn’t have access to Firestone, so I reserved it for him. He’s writing about depression and stuff.”
- I was shocked out of my own delusion by a one-in-a-million accident. It was only then that I realized something: my death wasn’t just about me. It would completely destroy the lives of those I cared most about. I imagined my mom, who had no part in creating my thesis mess, suffering until her dying day, blaming herself.
- The very next week, I decided to take the rest of my “year off” truly off (to hell with the thesis) and focus on physical and mental health. That’s how the entire “sumo” story of the 1999 Chinese Kickboxing (Sanshou) Championships came to be, if you’ve read The 4-Hour Workweek.
- Months later, after focusing on my body instead of being trapped in my head, things were much clearer. Everything seemed more manageable. The “hopeless” situation seemed like shitty luck but nothing permanent.
- I returned to Princeton, turned in my now-finished thesis to my still-sour advisor, got chewed up in my thesis defense, and didn’t give a fuck. It wasn’t the best thesis he’d ever read, nor the best thing I’d ever written, but I had moved on.
- Many thanks are due to a few people who helped me regain my confidence that final semester. None of them have heard this story, but I’d like to give them credit here. Among others: My parents and family (of course), Professor Ed Zschau, Professor John McPhee, Sympoh dance troupe, and my friends at the amazing Terrace Food Club.
- I graduated with the class of 2000, and bid goodbye to Nassau Hall. I rarely go back, as you might imagine.
Given the purported jump in “suicidal gestures” at Princeton and its close cousins (Harvard appears to have 2x the national average for undergrad suicides), I hope the administration is taking things seriously. If nearly half of your student population reports feeling depressed, there might be systemic issues to fix.
Left unfixed, you’ll have more dead kids on your hands, guaranteed.
It’s not enough to wait for people to reach out, or to request that at-risk kids take a leave of absence “off the clock” of the university.
Perhaps regularly reach out to the entire student body to catch people before they fall? It could be as simple as email.
[Sidenote: After graduating, I promised myself that I would never write anything longer than an email ever again. Pretty hilarious that I now write 500-plus-page books, eh?]
OUT OF THE DARKNESS
“Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage…” – Lao Tzu
First, let me give a retrospective analysis of my near obliteration. Then, I’ll give you a bunch of tools and tricks that I still use for keeping the darkness at arm’s length.
Now, at this point, some of you might also be thinking “That’s it?! A Princeton student was at risk of getting a bad grade? Boo-fuckin’-hoo, man. Give me a break…”
But… that’s the entire point. It’s easy to blow things out of proportion, to get lost in the story you tell yourself, and to think that your entire life hinges on one thing you’ll barely remember 5-10 years later. That seemingly all-important thing could be a bad grade, getting into college, a relationship, a divorce, getting fired, or just a bunch of hecklers on the Internet.
So, back to our story–why didn’t I kill myself?
Below are the realizations that helped me (and a few friends). They certainly won’t work for everyone suffering from depression, but my hope is that they help some of you.
1. Call this number : 1 (800) 273-8255. I didn’t have it, and I wish I had. It’s the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (website and live chat here). It’s available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, in both English and Spanish.
If you’re outside of the US, please click here for a list of international hotlines.
Sometimes, it just takes one conversation with one rational person to stop a horrible irrational decision. If you’re considering ending your life, please reach out to them. If you’re too embarrassed to admit that, as I was, then you can ping them “just to chat for a few minutes.” Pretend you’re killing time or testing different suicide hotlines for a directory you’re compiling. Whatever works.
Speaking personally, I want to see the gifts you have to offer the world. And speaking from personal experience, believe me: this too shall pass, whatever it is.
2. I realized it would destroy other people’s lives. Killing yourself can spiritually kill other people.
Even if you’re not lucky enough, as I was, to feel loved by other people, I think this is worth meditating on.
Your death is not perfectly isolated. It can destroy a lot, whether your family (who will blame themselves), other loved ones, or simply the law enforcement officers or coroners who have to haul your death mask-wearing carcass out of an apartment or the woods. The guaranteed outcome of suicide is NOT things improving for you (or going blank), but creating a catastrophe for others. Even if your intention is to get revenge through suicide, the damage won’t be limited to your targets.
A friend once told me that killing yourself is like taking your pain, multiplying it 10x, and giving it to the ones who love you. I agree with this, but there’s more. Beyond any loved ones, you could include neighbors, innocent bystanders exposed to your death, and people — often kids — who commit “copycat suicides” when they read about your demise. This is the reality, not the cure-all fantasy, of suicide.
If you think about killing yourself, imagine yourself wearing a suicide bomber’s vest of explosives and walking into a crowd of innocents.
That’s effectively what it is. Even if you “feel” like no one loves you or cares about you, you are most likely loved–and most definitely lovable and worthy of love.
3. There’s no guarantee that killing yourself improves things!
In a tragically comic way, this was a depressing realization when I was considering blowing my head off or getting run over. Damnation! No guarantees. Death and taxes, yes, but not a breezy afterlife.
The “afterlife” could be 1,000x worse than life, even at its worst. No one knows. I personally believe that consciousness persists after physical death, and it dawned on me that I literally had zero evidence that my death would improve things. It’s a terrible bet. At least here, in this life, we have known variables we can tweak and change. The unknown void could be Dante’s Inferno or far worse. When we just “want the pain to stop,” it’s easy to forget this. You simply don’t know what’s behind door #3.
In our desperation, we often just don’t think it through. It’s kind of like the murder-suicide joke by one of my favorite comics, Demetri Martin:
“Someone who commits a murder-suicide is probably somebody who isn’t thinking through the afterlife. Bam! You’re dead. Bam! I’m dead. Oh shit … this is going to be awkward forever.”
4. Tips from friends, related to #2 above.
For some of my friends (all high achievers, for those wondering), a “non-suicide vow” is what made all the difference. Here is one friend’s description:
“It only mattered when I made a vow to the one person in my life I knew I would never break it to [a sibling]. It’s powerful when you do that. All of a sudden, this option that I sometimes played around in my mind, it was off the table. I would never break a vow to my brother, ever. After the vow and him accepting it, I’ve had to approach life in a different way. There is no fantasy escape hatch. I’m in it. In the end, making a vow to him is the greatest gift I could have given myself.”
As silly as it might sound, it’s sometimes easier to focus on keeping your word, and avoiding hurting someone, than preserving your own life.
And that’s OK. Use what works first, and you can fix the rest later. If you need to disguise a vow out of embarrassment (“How would I confess that to a friend?!”), find a struggling friend to make a mutual “non-suicide vow” with. Make it seem like you’re only trying to protect him or her. Still too much? Make it a “mutual non-self-hurt” vow with a friend who beats themselves up.
Make it about him or her as much as you.
If you don’t care about yourself, make it about other people.
Make a promise you can’t break, or at the very least realize this: killing yourself will destroy other people’s lives.
PRACTICAL GREMLIN DEFENSE
Now, let’s talk day-to-day tactics.
The fact of the matter is this: if you’re driven, an entrepreneur, a type-A personality, or a hundred other things, mood swings are part of your genetic hardwiring. It’s a blessing and a curse.
Below are a number of habits and routines that help me. They might seem simplistic, but they keep me from careening too far off the tracks. They are my defense against the abyss. They might help you find your own, or use them as a starting point.
Most of this boxed text is from a previous post on “productivity ‘hacks’ for the neurotic, manic-depressive, and crazy (like me)“, but I’ve added a few things:
Most “superheroes” are nothing of the sort. They’re weird, neurotic creatures who do big things DESPITE lots of self-defeating habits and self-talk.
Here are some of my coping mechanisms for making it through the day:
1) Wake up at least 1 hour before you have to be at a computer screen. E-mail is the mind killer.
2) Make a cup of tea (I like pu-erh like this) and sit down with a pen/pencil and paper.
3) Write down the 3-5 things — and no more — that are making you most anxious or uncomfortable. They’re often things that have been punted from one day’s to-do list to the next, to the next, to the next, and so on. Most important usually = most uncomfortable, with some chance of rejection or conflict.
4) For each item, ask yourself:
– “If this were the only thing I accomplished today, would I be satisfied with my day?”
– “Will moving this forward make all the other to-do’s unimportant or easier to knock off later?”
5) Look only at the items you’ve answered “yes” to for at least one of these questions.
6) Block out at 2-3 hours to focus on ONE of them for today. Let the rest of the urgent but less important stuff slide. It will still be there tomorrow.
7) TO BE CLEAR: Block out at 2-3 HOURS to focus on ONE of them for today. This is ONE BLOCK OF TIME. Cobbling together 10 minutes here and there to add up to 120 minutes does not work.
8) If you get distracted or start procrastinating, don’t freak out and downward spiral; just gently come back to your ONE to-do.
9) Physically MOVE for at least 20 minutes each day. Go for a long walk, lift weights, take a free online yoga class (YouTube), anything. Ideally, get outside. I was once asked by friend for advice on overcoming debilitating stress. The answer I repeated over and over again was: “Remember to EXERCISE daily. That is 80% of the battle.”
10) Follow a diet that prevents wild blood sugar swings. This means avoiding grains and refined carbohydrates most of the time. I follow the slow-carb diet with one cheat day per week and have done so for 10+ years. Paleo also works great. Don’t forget to eat plenty of fat. High protein and low fat can give you low-grade symptoms of rabbit starvation.
11) Schedule at least one group dinner with friends per week. Get it on the calendar no later than 5pm on Monday. Ideal to have at least three people, but two is still great medicine.
12) Take a minute each day to call or email someone to express gratitude of some type. Consider someone you haven’t spoken with in a long time. It can be a one-line text or a 5-second voicemail.
Congratulations! That’s it.
Those are the rules I use, and they help steer the ship in the right direction.
Routines are the only way I can feel “successful” despite my never-ending impulse to procrastinate, hit snooze, nap, and otherwise fritter away my days with bullshit. If I have 10 “important” things to do in a day, I’ll feel overwhelmed, and it’s 100% certain nothing important will get done that day. On the other hand, I can usually handle 1 must-do item and block out my lesser behaviors for 2-3 hours a day.
And when — despite your best efforts — you feel like you’re losing at the game of life, never forget: Even the best of the best feel this way sometimes. When I’m in the pit of despair with new book projects, I recall what iconic writer Kurt Vonnegut said about his process: “When I write, I feel like an armless, legless man with a crayon in his mouth.”
Don’t overestimate the world and underestimate yourself. You are better than you think.
TO WRAP UP THIS LONG-ASS POST
My “perfect storm” was nothing permanent.
If we let the storms pass and choose to reflect, we come out better than ever. In the end, regardless of the fucked up acts of others, we have to reach within ourselves and grow. It’s our responsibility to ourselves and–just as critical–to those who love and surround us.
You have gifts to share with the world.
You are not alone.
You are not flawed.
You are human.
And when the darkness comes, when you are fighting the demons, just remember: I’m right there fighting with you.
The gems I’ve found were forged in the struggle. Never ever give up.
Much love,
Tim
P.S. If you have tips that have helped you overcome or manage depression, please share in the comments. I would love for this post to become a growing resource for people. I will also do my best to improve it over time. Thank you.
Additional Resources:
If you occasionally struggle like me, these resources, videos, and articles might help you rebound. I watch the video of Nick Vujicic quite often, just as a reminder of how fortunate I am:
The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline – Dial 988 or 1 (800) 273-8255 (website and live chat here). It’s available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, in both English and Spanish. Outside the US? Please click here for a list of international hotlines.
My recent interview with Derek Halpern – The core of the conversation is about how to overcome struggle and the above suicide-related story, but it also includes business strategies and other lessons learned. My apologies for the weird lip smacking, which is a nervous tic. I thought I’d fixed it, but these stories brought it back 🙂
15-Minute Audio from Tony Robbins – I asked Tony for his thoughts on suicide. He responded with a very insightful audio clip, recorded while in the air. It covers a lot, and the hilarious anecdote about the raw-foodist mom at the end alone makes it worth a listen. NOTE: Of course, NEVER stop taking anti-depressants or any medicine without medical supervision. That is not what Tony is recommending.
Listen in the player above, or download by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”
The Prescription for Self-Doubt? Watch This Short Video (Nick Vujicic)
Harnessing Entrepreneurial Manic-Depression: Making the Rollercoaster Work for You
Two Root Causes of My Recent Depression – This article is by Brad Feld, one of my favorite start-up investors and a world-class entrepreneur in his own right. It’s just more proof that you’re not alone. Even the best out there feel hopeless at times. It can be beaten.
Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach. This book is not nearly as woo-woo as it might seem. It was recommended to me by a neuroscience PhD who said it changed her life, then by another cynical friend who said the same. It is one of the most useful books I’ve read in the last two years. It’s easy to digest, and I suggest one short chapter before bed each night. For those of us who beat ourselves up, it’s a godsend.



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There have been days when the only thing I am capable of, literally, is continuing to breathe. It really is the only thing I HAVE to do. Change is a guarantee, and sometimes that is where all your hope lies. Just stay alive long enough to make it to tomorrow. Eventually something will change, and you will be able to get up and face life again, to feel hope and love again. As impossible as it may seem right now, you will be glad you kept breathing.
The solution was 3 feet away. Cold black metal. Locked and loaded. My family was out of town and I, at 52 years old, was ready to end it all with a 12 gauge shotgun. Life had beaten me up.
Years of accumulated financial stress, unfulfilled dreams, and promises unkept, were weighing heavy on every area of my life.
And with a $1,000,000 life insurance policy old enough to pay out even in the case of suicide, I figured that’d give my wife a fresh start. Plus, both kids were now on their own.
I was ready and willing. A part of me even considered it doing my wife a favor. I couldn’t see the damage you mention in the post above. I knew she’d be sad. But I also figured she was strong and she’d recover.
With the decision made, I had one last hail mary I was going to try before I pulled the trigger.
A friend and I had planned to do magic mushrooms together. HE would go first and I would be the sitter on Thursday. Then on Friday I’d take a dose and he’d be the sitter.
I’d heard about the benefits of magic mushrooms to help with anxiety and depression so I figured I’d give it a try as a last resort.
By the way, I’m not suggesting anyone do what I did. That state of mind is not the best way to enter and mushroom trip.
The day came. My friend went first and had a what seems to be a pretty normal trip. Tough but nothing crazy.
Friday it was my turn. I took 3.5g, put on the Johns Hopkins playlist and eye mask and settled onto the couch. Within 30 minutes the geometry showed up and then without warning seemed to swallow me whole. I was in the blackness, the void. And it terrified me. I sat up, ripped off the eyemask and headphones and told my friend, “I can’t do this.”
He said, “Too late.”
Over the next several hours I can only describe what happened as wave after wave of intense fear leaving my body physically. I never went back into the mask. But we had the music on. I had a hard time catching my breath. I was jumping and pacing and shouting trying to move the energy.
It was like all the fear and stress and anxiety I’d suppressed when trying to “keep it all together” for everyone else finally made it’s way to the surface. During the peak I had ideations of me running over to the kitchen to grab a knife and end it all… BUT… because I had a friend there, I didn’t want to put him through that.
Anyway, after a. very long 5-6 hours of wave after wave of this physical energy trying to get out of my body, I called and had another friend come over. And he did.
Then as the night went on and as I started to come down, I thought about my wife and my kids and how grateful I was for them. I cried. We played some Trace Adkins “You’re Gonna Miss This” and Darius Rucker’s “It won’t be like this for long” and I cried some more knowing I literally dodged a bullet.
It’s been just over two years. I’m now 54. And thanks to Solo MDMA therapy and microdosing among other things, I’m more stable and resilient emotionally than I’ve ever been in my life.
And now when I do have a bad day, I’m able to tell my wife as well as a few friends that know the whole story. I simply tell them, I had a shitty day today. I was sad or angry or overwhelmed. I don’t keep feelings to myself any more. Before I was embarrassed and felt like I need to be the strong one and carry it all. That’s a lie!
As Tim said, there are people who would be very hurt that you didn’t feel safe enough to talk to them and they will blame themselves.
Don’t put them through that.
As cliche as it sounds, “This too shall pass”
And the sooner you let someone know what’s going on, the quicker it seems to pass. Two or three can carry the pain much faster and further than you can on your own.
Hey Tim,
Honestly, I do thank you for writing this. I honestly felt alone in what I was going through. I will sum it up really quick. I am looking at this, because you were on DOAC with Steven Barlett.
My name is Vance. I was born in Canada. I had a stroke that took out my right side of my body at the age of 14, due to a hereditary birth disease I was born with, moyamoya (Japanese for smoke). My mom already started blaming herself because it was a hereditary condition. I evidently failed my first year (sophomore in America I think), and felt like a failure and had evident depression, also suicidal too. My dad went to jail. I wanted to be a lawyer, so I could help those who were unable to pay for lawyers in Canada, because he couldn’t. I got into university somehow (college), and I was doing well. My girlfriend ends up breaking up with me my last year too, because I did feel insecure and I did want to see her more too. But, I did everything I needed to get into a good law school, except the LSAT (good grades, dozens of community and university engagement, students union, 5 professors that would sign my letter of recommendation, etc.). I graduated, and decided to take a year off, because I always wanted to know why my high school friends always said “Oh, I am busy with work.” I never really had a job, and school was mostly funded by our province, based on family income. I took the LSAT the following year. I failed the LSAT. My dad would just laugh pessimistically at me, even though he knew my entire reason was because of his legal case, so I started drinking to numb his voice. I took the LSAT multiple times after, but kept bringing back trauma, and never could get around to looking myself in the mirror. I hated myself. Then brought back old memories, and feeling like a failure.
Thank you again for being on his show. You truly did allow me to see the other side of these mental health issues.
10yrs later- but this post is still so meaningful. Also listened to Tim’s audio below- wrote down some great notes. I have a teenage daughter really struggling at the moment and hearing your story from someone that has been
there resonates more. I just don’t know how to act, what to do, wonder if I’m enabling her. But my gut is to be there for her always and show her love and compassion. Thanks Tim.
Querido Tim, diretamente do Brasil, escrevo esse comentário. Eu gostaria de agradecer profundamente por esse artigo tão corajoso e forte. Você não sabe mas hoje você salvou a minha vida a longo prazo, posso falar com segurança isso. Após ler, eu escrevi uma carta anti suic´*dio pra mim mesma no último dia do ano, e refleti sobre como sou sortuda (e protegida por Deus) por ainda estar aqui depois dos eventos que me ocorreram em 2017. Naquele ano eu planejei, e no dia que estava tudo certo pra tirar minha própria vida, algo (divino) estalou e me tirou daquele estado anestesiada em que eu estava e foram anos de luta contra a depressão até aqui. O medo de voltar para aquele lugar nunca de fato foi embora, só diminuiu com todo tratamento e vontade de evoluir que eu sempre carreguei, apesar de tudo. Mas sempre senti aquela sombra ali… Como se a qualquer deslize ela pudesse tomar conta de novo. Eu tenho vivido em estado de alerta desde o dia do quase, buscando espiritualmente, físicamente, mentalmente me reconstruir. E tem dado certo. Porém hoje depois de escrever a nota anti suicídio e escrevi para o meu irmão mais novo em prantos, eu não tinha notado como a falta da minha presença impactaria toda a minha família, como eu afetaria ele pro resto da vida, e apesar de parecer melancólico e triste essa parte, fui tomada por um sentimento de amor tão profundo, que eu não consigo explicar com palavras. É como se simplesmente eu tivesse certeza que eu jamais faria isso, não importa o tamanho da escuridão que eu possa atravessar, ainda sim eu prefiro passar toda e qualquer, por quem eu amo. É tão mais forte que tudo, é o sentido que eu não estava enxergando. Não importa quantos desafios a vida me trouxer, o amor é maior que tudo, que a morte, que a minha existência, de um jeito não de não valorizar minha singularidade, mas de sentir que eu estava dormindo e não enxergando que a vida vai muito além, e que eu não preciso me apressar com nada, a morte vai chegar de qualquer forma. Hoje no última dia do ano, teu texto, tuas palavras, o carinho que tu trouxe, salvou minha vida a longo prazo. Que Deus abençoe tua vida sempre, você é um ser humano extraordinário. Obrigada Tim. Feliz ano novo. Um dia eu vou conseguir agradecer pessoalmente a você, mentalizando isso desde agora. Obrigada amigo. Da sua fã brasileira Stephani Moreno.
Tim,
Thanks for writing this. Randomly saw you on a podcast where you mentioned this article. You’ll probably never see this, but I figured I’d drop a comment anyway.
I’ve been wrestling with depression since high school and I am 38 now. It’s weird, cause I’ve had plenty of time to learn about it, understand it, and develop a plan. I just can’t seem to stay on top of things and get better. Financially I am constantly on a roller coaster and I’m emotionally all over the place. I can’t seem to stick with anything long enough for it to sink in and stabilize. Its like my mind spends all its time fighting itself and never can just be at peace.
After years of this I am just exhausted and tired of constantly going to war with myself. This past month I have spent the majority of my time in bed or on the couch trying to distract my mind. I am not working at the moment and a few months ago I broke up with my girlfriend. Not because the relationship was bad, but because I couldn’t seem to give her the love she gave me. I felt as if I was stringing her along. Breaking up seemed like the kind thing to do. Plus if I killed myself while we were together it would have destroyed her and I didn’t want.
The scary part about this past month is that I’m started to care less and less about how it would affect people. I thought “Fuck it, they will figure out how to deal with it. Its not my problem.”. It’s selfish, but again I’m just tired. The only thing I have really been able to maintain is going to therapy every other week, but I am not sure how much it is helping.
I’m not entirely sure what I should do. I have been looking for a job, but honestly I burn out after about 45mins and never really finish an application. I have been trying to exercise, but its very inconsistent. I have been ignoring most phone calls, texts, etc from everyone. It’s like I can see the cliff coming and I just don’t even want to change course. I don’t see the point. I know life can be beautiful, but the pain and suffering seem to outweigh everything else. It’s like most of my life I have been drowning and I will get brief moments where my head is above water. I can breath and I can feel the warm sun on my face, but inevitably I am pulled back down. I would much rather be happy and enjoy life, but its like I’ve gone down this path for so long changing course is a monumental task that I don’t have the energy for.
Not looking for any answers or solutions from you, just had the desire to comment and get it out there. May not come across like the article helped, but it did. Thanks again. I’m going to try and just take it one day at a time and hopefully something will shift.
P.S. One last note that may help people reading this comment. I am finding that joining live streams and engaging in the chat has made me feel a lot less isolated. For the longest time I didn’t understand why people would spend so much time do this, but now I understand. It’s a very simple low effort way to connect.
If anyone is feeling isolated or are having a hard time connecting with their current circle. I’d suggest trying to find a stream that covers a subject you are into or interested in. It might help alleviate that feeling of isolation and distance.
Hi Joseph,
I hope you’re still pushing. I wish I could share my contact with you. I’d really like to conect with you. I find that there’s alot of persons who feel isolated and live isolated lives and on the other end, there are still people who are in search of people to genuinely connect with.
I hope you find that person.
It’s all in the mind. We often blow things out of proportion. In retrospect, everything seems fine.
Take time to react, make it a habit to slow things down. Also, talk with friends and family, who care.
Remember, change the story in your mind, change the reality you perceive.
Stay strong, persist, it’s going to be alright.
Thanks Tim.