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Tish Rabe — 200+ Children’s Books, Getting Picked for Dr. Seuss, Lessons from Early Sesame Street, How to Write 300+ Songs, and More (#854)

Tish Rabe (@tishrabebooks) is the New York Times bestselling author of more than 200 children’s books, with more than 11 million copies sold. She has written for Sesame Street, Disney, PBS Kids, Curious George, Clifford, and many more. In 1991, following the death of Dr. Seuss, she was asked by Random House to write The Cat in the Hat’s Learning Library, a series of science books for early readers that were the brainchild of Dr. Seuss, who died before he could finish the first one. Tish has written more than 50 Cat in the Hat books as well as books for the Grinch and the Lorax. 

Trained as a professional singer, she began her career as the music production assistant for Sesame Street in its first seasons and was hired by Jim Henson to sing for the Muppets. She has written more than 300 children’s songs for broadcast television, is an animation head writer and scriptwriter, was a creative consultant for the Cartoon Network, Scholastic, and HBO Family and now heads her own children’s book publishing company, Tish Rabe Books.

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  • [00:00:00] Who is Tish Rabe?
  • [00:00:24] How an opera major became a bestselling children’s author and songwriter.
  • [00:03:12] Tish’s trashy debut on television treasure Sesame Street.
  • [00:03:36] Pitching a childhood memory to dead silence — and landing book number one.
  • [00:07:27] The value of writing a story’s ending first.
  • [00:09:42] Jim Henson: The kind, gentle giant with a mind of steel.
  • [00:10:58] Keeping kids and their parents entertained with double-level humor.
  • [00:11:38] How Tish put her music training to work with Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch.
  • [00:18:56] From nine-note auditions to signing on with Sesame Street‘s mission to level the kindergarten playing field.
  • [00:22:48] Churning out children’s books and writing bangers about animal gestation periods and lumber measurement for 3-2-1 Contact.
  • [00:26:56] The zero-rhyming genius of Joe Raposo’s “Bein’ Green” and why it works.
  • [00:29:59] Curriculum is king: Focus groups, orange Oscar, and making sure the kids aren’t lost.
  • [00:32:16] Random House rejected her book, but the late Dr. Seuss took a second look.
  • [00:37:17] Accepting the Widow Seuss’s challenge to write a book for babies in utero and ending up with a  bestseller.
  • [00:40:39] The secret to perfect rhyme in Dr. Seuss’s paradigm.
  • [00:44:14] Is rhyming a part of Tish’s DNA, or did she learn it along the way?
  • [00:48:12] The time Tish transformed a planet from pizza into nickels to make her deadline.
  • [00:49:45] Has music as a mission preserved Tish’s cognition?
  • [00:55:10] What does Tish aim to do with the company she started in her 70s?
  • [01:01:18] Sometimes Apart, Always in My Heart: A military kid’s book born from a POW father’s legacy and a high-five traced on paper.
  • [01:05:30] Alaska the stuffed dog, financial literacy bunnies, hallucinated seagulls, and 843 acres of Central Park in 24 pages.
  • [01:12:54] Tish’s campaign to get free books to kids in underserved neighborhoods.
  • [01:14:02] Advice for aspiring children’s book authors.
  • [01:15:42] Tish doesn’t get derailed by writer’s block — she prepares for it.
  • [01:17:24] When Michelle Obama added 16 pages to a book Tish thought would be boring.
  • [01:19:37] Big Bird in China, 1982: One hand-painted costume, 13 days of rain, zero coffee, and a five-year-old who memorized the wrong script.
  • [01:23:41] Tish’s billboard.
  • [01:24:38] Kindness is Caring, Friendship is Sharing and other parting thoughts.

TISH RABE QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW

“Tish Rabe’s a mom who thinks that it’s cool to be home rhyming rhymes while her kids are at school.” — Tish Rabe

“You do not have to have kids to write for kids.” — Tish Rabe

“My first job was hiring the jingle singers in Manhattan to sing with Jim Henson’s Muppets. So I sang all day. I sang when I typed, and I sang when I filed, and I sang when I answered the phone. ‘Sesame Street, may I help you?’ Well, after a year, everybody was so tired of listening to me sing all the time that they said, ‘Would you like to sing on Sesame Street with the Muppets?’” — Tish Rabe

“There is nothing like giving a book to a child who doesn’t have a book. I am on this lifetime mission of trying to get free books to kids who don’t have any.” — Tish Rabe

“Remember: the children are our most precious gift. I get concerned about the way the world is going. I just want everybody to remember that they are the most precious part of our world. Because they are the future, they are the dreams of the future, and we must take good care of them. And read, read, read.” — Tish Rabe

“I really encourage everybody. Everybody’s always, ‘Yeah, but you’ve got this beautiful voice, and you sing all the time, and I can’t sing.’ And I just try to say to everybody—and I mean this from the bottom of my heart—you can sing. It doesn’t matter if it’s croaky, it doesn’t matter what it sounds like, the only voice your child wants to hear is yours.” — Tish Rabe


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Want to hear another episode with someone who knows how to make people of all ages light up? Listen to my first conversation with Elan Lee, co-creator of Exploding Kittens and the mutual friend who introduced me to Tish, in which we discussed how to raise millions on Kickstarter, deconstructing mega-successes, secrets of game design, the power of positive constraints, the delights of craftsmanship, turning fans into superfans, and much more.

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Lluvia Arras
Lluvia Arras
16 days ago

Hello Tim and Team! I really enjoyed this episode with Tish Rabe. Her passion, creativity and joyful spirit came through crystal clear while I listened. Thank you for featuring this amazing woman on your show, what an inspiration! I would love to hear more female guests on your show! Loyal listener since 2016.

Amie Vaccaro
Amie Vaccaro
14 days ago

I loved this episode and had a random question for you. You mentioned cognitive testing you did recently – what kinds of tests were they? I’m curious to learn more.

G Johnson
G Johnson
14 days ago

Thx. After listening I’m going to finish my writing projects. This podcast was filled with great content that inspires people. I know the books and the songs. It was nice to have met the creative force behind the storytelling. Wow! One of many take aways is the point of how to prepare for “writer’s block”.

Judy
Judy
11 days ago

What a joy to see a guest that is my age and gender! They are few and far between here. I feel seen! There are loads of successful and interesting older women out there, please feature more of us. I think this is an untapped category of guests and maybe a way to grow your readership demographic? Thanks so much for this one.


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