“Art is socialism, but life is capitalism.” – Mike Birbiglia
Mike Birbiglia (@birbigs) is one of the best-known and busiest working comedians in the world, both behind and in front of the camera. His standup blends elements of theater, film, storytelling, and comedy.
Mike has been deliberate in studying many crafts and tying them together, which is reflected in a diverse string of successes: sold-out tours as a solo theater act, New York Times bestselling books, off-Broadway shows, feature film, TV, and more. In recent years, his work has appeared on public radio’s This American Life, where he began a meaningful collaboration with host and producer Ira Glass.
Currently, he is the creator, writer, and star of the new film Don’t Think Twice, which was just released. I loved it, which I do not say lightly. Check it out.
So…how the hell does he do it all? I aimed to find out.
In this conversation, we cover a ton, including:
- His writing process and schedule
- Favorite books, documentaries, and TV shows
- Morning routines
- Stories and lessons from Oliver Stone, Ron Howard, and others
- How he “workshops” and develops material
- Hilarious interactions with POTUS
- The best pizza joints in NYC
- Which three comedians he’d combine into one “super comic”
- How he runs jokes by other people
- And much, much more…
If you only have 5 minutes (and need a good laugh), here are Mike’s rules for good sex.
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Scroll below for links and show notes…
Selected Links from the Episode
- Connect with Mike Birbiglia:
- Don’t Think Twice
- Mike’s pizza choices: Arturo’s Lucali, Luzzo’s, New England Greek style, and New Haven style.
- Beau Bonneau Casting
- Sleepwalk with Me (Amazon)
- Sleepwalk with Me (Google Play)
- Sleepwalk with Me (iTunes)
- UCB Theater
- Movie Magic Screenwriter
- Trainwreck
- fun.
- Scriptnotes podcast by John August and Craig Mazin
- Final Draft
- Mind Writing Slogans via Alan Ginsberg
- Sleepwalk with Me: and Other Painfully True Stories by Mike Birbiglia
- This American Life
- Dramaturgically
- Nantucket Film Festival
- To Mike Birbiglia’s Parents: It’s OK If Your Son Sticks To Comedy, All Things Considered, NPR
- Captain Fantastic
- English as a Second F*cking Language: How to Swear Effectively, Explained in Detail with Numerous Examples Taken From Everyday Life by Sterling Johnson
- DC Improv
- The Tombs in Washington, DC
- Hearts of Darkness — A Filmmaker’s Apocalypse by Francis Ford Coppola
- USO Marks 75th Anniversary by Jim Garamone, Army News Service
- Time Out Of Mind by Bob Dylan
- The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan by Bob Dylan
- Stop Making Sense by Talking Heads and Jonathan Demme
- The Promise of Sleep: A Pioneer in Sleep Medicine Explores the Vital Connection Between Health, Happiness, and a Good Night’s Sleep by William C. Dement
- Terms Of Endearment
- Broadcast News
- Doug Stanhope — No Refunds
- Andy Kaufman’s Elvis Presley Impression on Johnny Carson’s Tonight Show, 1977
- The Secret by Rhonda Byrne
- Fitbit One Wireless Activity Plus Sleep Tracker
- REM behavior disorder
- Sleep With Me Podcast
- Memento
- Mike Birbiglia: Thank God For Jokes
- The Comedy Cellar in New York City
- The Chicago Theatre
- Peace Innovation at Stanford University
- GM’s Sweetheart Tax Deal by Chris Isidore, CNN Money
- Planet Ant
- Tickled official trailer
- Other People
- Norman Lear: Just Another Version of You
- AcroYoga
- The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich by Timothy Ferriss
Show Notes
- Mike loves comedy. Here is his other obsession. [07:24]
- Mike talks about his writing routine, the value of improv, and how he workshops his movies. [13:14]
- Mike tells us about his “blessed” journal. [17:45]
- What are mind writing slogans? [21:54]
- Why Mike is cautious about being too topical with his references. [22:54]
- “Art is socialism, but life is capitalism.” [25:05]
- Mike says there are no stakes to showing your friends your work, and it provides valuable feedback that improves the end result. [26:00]
- Mike generally doesn’t curse on stage — this is why. [30:40]
- Who does Mike run his jokes by before sharing on stage? [34:50]
- What questions does Mike ask when he wants feedback? [37:57]
- How did Mike succeed in a business where so many fail? [40:35]
- What is the “ratio” for good comedy? [43:37]
- Advice Mike would give to his younger self. [46:35]
- Mike’s thoughts on how technology has been democratized. [47:53]
- Who does Mike think of when he hears the word “successful?” [50:05]
- How Mike and his wife successfully solicited parenting advice from President Obama (and how you can engage someone who doesn’t necessarily want to talk to you). [52:13]
- Mike’s rules for good sex. [55:13]
- Books and movies Mike gives as gifts. [57:00]
- Mike’s favorite movies and documentaries. [59:03]
- If Mike could mix three comedians into one super comedian, who would he pick? [59:41]
- Low-cost purchase that had the biggest impact on Mike’s life. [1:03:13]
- Mike’s nighttime rituals. [1:04:45]
- Mike’s morning rituals. [1:07:10]
- Mike’s favorite venue in the US. [1:08:37]
- The worst advice Mike hears most often (and what he keeps in mind when considering stories to share with an audience). [1:09:21]
- Mike responds to something Jon Favreau said about him. [1:12:43]
- How chance encounters can unfairly lead people toward unfavorable opinions of celebrities. [1:16:29]
- Mike on the joy of the cuisine loophole (and why you should order peanut butter and jelly if it’s on the menu at a fancy restaurant). [1:19:03]
- What would Mike’s billboard say, and where would it be? [1:21:18]
- What Mike likes about his career niche (and who he’s really working for). [1:22:56]
- Mike’s advice for finding your own niche in the entertainment industry. [1:23:16]
- The insanity of Hollywood accounting. [1:24:07]
- How you can help Mike and other independent filmmakers. [1:29:42]
- Mike endorses yoga and The 4-Hour Workweek [1:32:12]
- Parting comments, requests, and disclaimers. [1:36:05]
People Mentioned
- Brian Koppelman
- Chris Sacca
- Cal Fussman
- Michael Webber
- Phil Lord
- Nicole Holofcener
- Jen Stein
- Aidy Bryant
- Ellie Kemper
- Zach Woods
- Dave Attell
- Amy Schumer
- Vanessa Bayer
- Andrew Dost
- Craig Mazin
- John August
- Ezra Pound
- Ernest Hemingway
- George Orwell
- Jack Kerouac
- Elna Baker
- Bernie Sanders
- Seth Barrish
- Ron Howard
- Jim Gaffigan
- Oprah Winfrey
- Lenny Bruce
- Richard Pryor
- Stephen King
- Joseph Birbiglia
- Steven Wright
- Mitch Hedberg
- Ira Glass
- Quentin Tarantino
- Larry the Cable Guy
- Dave Chappelle
- George Lopez
- Margaret Cho
- Kathleen Madigan
- Brian Regan
- Jake Johannsen
- Tommy Johnagin
- David Letterman
- Viggo Mortensen
- Neil Gaiman
- Oliver Stone
- Francis Ford Coppola
- Robert Scoble
- Barack Obama
- Jimmy Fallon
- Bob Dylan
- William C. Dement
- James L. Brooks
- Doug Stanhope
- Maria Bamford
- Bill Burr
- Andy Kaufman
- Jon Favreau
- BJ Fogg
- Keegan-Michael Key
- Chris Kelly
- Norman Lear
- Amelia Boone