“Poker is about maximizing deceptiveness while extracting information out of your opponent.”— Liv Boeree
Liv Boeree (@Liv_Boeree) is one of the UK’s most successful poker players, winning both European Poker Tour and World Series of Poker championship titles during her professional career. Before poker she studied astrophysics and now focuses her time as a TV host and YouTuber specializing in game theory, futurism, and rationality. She also gives seminars on high-stakes decision-making, and recently spoke at the annual TED conference about the application of poker thinking to everyday life. In 2014, she co-founded Raising for Effective Giving (REG), a nonprofit based upon the philosophies of effective altruism that has raised over $14,000,000 for its carefully selected list of maximally cost-effective charities.
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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Connect with Liv Boeree:
- Raising for Effective Giving
- Master of Puppets by Metallica | Amazon Music
- Liv Boeree: The “Iron Maiden” of the Poker World | Metal Insider
- Iron Maiden
- Vulgar Display of Power by Pantera | Amazon Music
- Nu Metal | Wikipedia
- Dimmu Borgir
- Ultimate Poker Showdown Bumper | YouTube
- Explaining “Rebuy” in Poker | Liveabout.com
- How to Spot a Liar, According to a Pro Poker Player | Inc.com
- The All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks, & Friedberg
- How to Calculate Pot Odds in Poker | Upswing Poker
- Poker Terms: Rainbow | PokerNews
- A Beginner’s Guide to Game Theory Optimal (GTO) Poker | 888 Poker
- The Six Types of Tilt | Poker Stars Learn
- Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman | Amazon
- Of Two Minds: How Fast and Slow Thinking Shape Perception and Choice | Scientific American
- Liv Boeree Wins the 2010 EPT Sanremo | PokerStars
- Eyjafjallajökull 2010: How Icelandic Volcano Eruption Closed European Skies | NCAS
- Surrender by The Chemical Brothers | Amazon Music
- The Sixth Sense | Prime Video
- Meniere’s Disease Symptoms and Causes | Mayo Clinic
- Burning Man | Liv Boeree
- Professor Donald Hoffman — The Case Against Reality, Beyond Spacetime, Rethinking Death, Panpsychism, QBism, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show #585
- Quantum Spookiness Spans the Canary Islands | Scientific American
- Is Human Consciousness Creating Reality? | Big Think
- Lynne Kelly on Memory Palaces, Ancient and Modern | Sean Carroll’s Mindscape Podcast #60
- Understanding Confidence Intervals | Scribbr
- Studying Studies | Peter Attia
- The Magic and Power of Placebo | The Tim Ferriss Show #194
- Suggestible You: The Curious Science of Your Brain’s Ability to Deceive, Transform, and Heal by Erik Vance | Amazon
- Placebos Are Getting More Effective. Drugmakers Are Desperate to Know Why. | WIRED
- List of Cognitive Biases and Heuristics | The Decision Lab
- Poor Charlie’s Almanack: The Wit and Wisdom of Charles T. Munger | Amazon
- The Scout Mindset: Why Some People See Things Clearly and Others Don’t by Julia Galef | Amazon
- Inadequate Equilibria: Where and How Civilizations Get Stuck by Eliezer Yudkowsky
- Nash Equilibrium | Investopedia
- Moloch: The Beauty Wars | Liv Boeree
- [06:41] Youthful obsessions.
- [11:14] How poker entered the picture.
- [18:55] The qualities that made Liv excel at poker from the start.
- [27:22] Liv’s advice to a newcomer wanting to learn poker.
- [34:04] What Liv’s eight-week poker education curriculum might look like.
- [42:11] Failure points that might discourage someone during this curriculum.
- [44:07] Red mist, white noise, and fast math.
- [50:18] Volcano-induced tournament participation and self-regulation.
- [59:07] A skeptic’s experiences with the unexplainable.
- [1:14:59] How does Liv rationally coexist with these experiences?
- [1:18:49] How to become a better skeptic.
- [1:24:59] Inadequate Equilibria and Moloch.
- [1:29:49] Parting thoughts.
MORE LIV BOEREE QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW
“The beautiful thing about poker, in fact, is that if you’re talking about one night, you can have the literal best player in the world, a medium player, complete beginners, and provided everyone knows the basic rules, then technically, anyone can win. It’s only over the long run does anything actually meaningful start happening.”
— Liv Boeree
“I still absolutely recommend that people go and learn the game because it is probably the best way to— it’s the best mini analog for the type of complex decision-making that you need to do in life that you can do.”
— Liv Boeree
“[Poker is] about maximizing deceptiveness while extracting information out of your opponent.”
— Liv Boeree
“A true scientist is maximally curious, and you do your best to devise experiments in order to get reliable, robust results that you can use to predict the world, and you try and minimize all the biases and things that could mess up your experiment and give you a faulty result.”
— Liv Boeree
“Extraordinary beliefs require extraordinary evidence. In order for me to give up everything that I know about our current understanding of the world, I would need significantly more data points.”
— Liv Boeree
- Philip H. Anselmo
- Jason Calacanis
- Phil Gordon
- Elaine Cross
- Molly Ferriss
- Matt Ginsberg
- Daniel Kahneman
- Igor Kurganov
- Melanie Weisner
- Donald Hoffman
- Dr. Michio Kaku
- Albert Einstein
- Niels Bohr
- Sean Carroll
- Peter Attia
- Erik Vance
- Charlie Munger
- Julia Galef
- Eliezer Yudkowsky
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