Technologist, serial entrepreneur, world-class investor, self-experimenter, and all-around wild and crazy guy Kevin Rose (@KevinRose) rejoins me for another episode of The Random Show.
In this one we discuss the recent KevKev and TimTim reunion in Marfa, good television for anyone passing time in quarantine, Kevin’s latest biohacking adventures, utility NFTs (including Kevin’s upcoming PROOF drop), donating cryptocurrency for psychedelic research, ketamine therapy, my COVID experience, holiday gifts, financing and budgeting apps, and much more.
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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Connect with Kevin Rose:
Website | PROOF | Modern Finance | Instagram | Twitter
- Visit Marfa, Texas
- Why is Art Blocks in Marfa? by Druid | Medium
- Art Blocks – Generative NFT Art with Erick Snowfro | PROOF
- Generative Art and NFTs | ARTnews
- SXSW Conference & Festivals
- The Random Show – Drinking Urine, Exploring Japan, and Figuring Out Life | The Tim Ferriss Show #224
- Meet Sotol, Tequila’s Northern Cousin | Serious Eats
- The Marfa Spirit Co.
- Mezcal Aquí Nomás | Instagram
- Oaxaca | Visit México
- Billecart-Salmon Brut Rose, Champagne | Wine Searcher
- LALO Tequila
- Los Altos de Jalisco | Wikipedia
- Suerte | East Austin
- Tequila Casa Dragones
- The Chinati Foundation
- The Peter Attia Drive Podcast
- What Is Rapamycin? | New Scientist
- My Life Extension Pilgrimage to Easter Island | The Tim Ferriss Show #193
- Dog Aging Project
- The Random Show — Kevin Rose and Tim Ferriss Talk Knives, iPhone Apps, Flutes, and Dog Handling | The Tim Ferriss Show #87
- Once-Weekly Noninsulin | Ozempic
- Saffron Was the Prozac of the Middle Ages | The Atlantic
- OLLY Hello Happy Gummy Worms | Amazon
- PYM Health Mood Chews | Amazon
- Gamma Aminobutyric Acid: Uses and Side Effects of GABA Supplement | Healthline
- L-Theanine: Dosage, Benefits, and Side Effects | Healthline
- 7 Proven Health Benefits of Rhodiola Rosea | Healthline
- Trainspotting | Prime Video
- The psychology of self-tracking — Quartz
- The Psychology of Self-Tracking | Quartz
- 60 Easy April Fools’ Pranks for Kids or Anyone | Parade
- List of Unproven Methods against COVID-19 | Wikipedia
- Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee | Netflix
- The Extreme Adventures of Super Dave | Prime Video
- Ted Lasso | Apple TV+
- Schitt’s Creek (Uncensored) | Prime Video
- Sarah Jessica Parker, Graham Norton Enter Wine NFT Market | Whiskey Raiders
- The Growing Utility of NFTs | CoinDesk
- Members’ Clubs | Soho House
- Screaming Eagle
- Harlan Estate
- Screaming Eagle ‘The Flight – Second Flight’, Napa Valley | Wine Searcher
- Yeezy Boost 700 | Adidas
- Air Jordan | Nike
- What is Web3? The Decentralized Internet of the Future Explained | Free Code Camp
- The Best Moments in Diggnation History | Diggnation
- CryptoPunks – The NFTs That Started It All. Their Origin Story and Future Plans | Modern Finance
- Flamingo DAO – What You Should Know About Decentralized Autonomous Organizations With Priyanka Desai And Aaron Wright | Modern Finance
- Open Meta DAO
- Neon DAO
- Friends With Benefits DAO
- Dilbert by Scott Adams
- Chris Dixon and Naval Ravikant — The Wonders of Web3, How to Pick the Right Hill to Climb, Finding the Right Amount of Crypto Regulation, Friends with Benefits, and the Untapped Potential of NFTs | The Tim Ferriss Show #542
- Platinum Partnership | Tony Robbins
- The Rink | Rockefeller Center
- VeeFriends – Gary Vaynerchuk’s New NFT Project | Modern Finance 9
- Wham-O Slip N’ Slide Wave Rider Double | Amazon
- Hasbro Connect 4 Game | Amazon
- Hasbro Twister | Amazon
- Blockchain Companies Are Showing Interest in .xyz Domain Names | Domain Name News
- The Saisei Foundation Community Fund | Endaoment
- Accept Crypto Donations | The Giving Block
- Japanese Meaning of Saisei | Nihongo Master
- Psychedelics 101: Books, Documentaries, Podcasts, Science, and More | Tim Ferriss
- Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions | Twitter
- Strength in Numbers Gala to End Veteran Suicide | VETS
- Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS)
- MDMA for PTSD Clinical Trials | MAPS
- The Obstacles to Decriminalizing Psychedelic Drugs Are Political, Not Legal, Say Experts | Harvard Law Today
- Future Ventures
- The Ketamine Cure: Is This Unregulated Drug Safe to Use at Home? | The New York Times
- Psychedelic Medicine is Here | Mindbloom
- Predator | Prime Video
- “Together We Will Do Drugs.” | Reddit
- Ivermectin Won’t Treat Covid-19 but Demand for Drug Surges | The New York Times
- Some Thoughts on Coronaviruses and Seatbelts | Tim Ferriss
- “After 18+ Months of Dodging…” | Tim Ferriss, Instagram
- Spectacular Scenes from Formula 1 Weekend’s Thrilling Return to Austin | CultureMap Austin
- Circuit of The Americas (COTA)
- Allergies in Austin | Greater Austin Allergy
- Monoclonal Antibody COVID-19 Infusion | CMS
- Drip Hydration Mobile IV Therapy
- Here’s How Austinites Think the City Failed during the Texas Freeze | KUT Radio
- Common Antidepressant Slashes Risk of COVID Death, Study Says | Nature
- Fluvoxamine | Drugs.com
- Enough with the Divisiveness | Smoky Mountain News
- Should I Mix and Match My COVID Booster with My Initial Vaccine? A Doctor Weighs In | NPR
- COVID-19 Vaccines and Infertility: Fact or Fiction? | Women’s Health Research
- Bad Science: Quacks, Hacks, and Big Pharma Flacks by Ben Goldacre | Amazon
- The 4-Hour Body: An Uncommon Guide to Rapid Fat Loss, Incredible Sex, and Becoming Superhuman by Timothy Ferriss | Amazon
- Studying the Studies Archives | Peter Attia
- Ghostbusters | Prime Video
- LEGO Ghostbusters ECTO-1 (10274) | Amazon
- LEGO Ideas Voltron (21311) | Amazon
- LEGO Porsche 911 (10295) | Amazon
- Bailout Family – CPM-3V Grivory | Benchmade Knife Company
- Kershaw Leek Serrated (1660ST) | Amazon
- Carter Cutlery
- Generation 3 | Oura Ring
- Karst Stone Paper Notebooks
- Maui Nui Venison
- The Struggle to Contain, and Eat, the Invasive Deer Taking over Hawaii | Modern Farmer
- 10 Gifts to Make Your Holidays Extra Fun, Relaxing, and Delicious | Tim Ferriss
- The World’s Most Modern Portfolio Tracker | Kubera
- Supercharge Your Finances with Insights You Won’t Get from Your Bank | Copilot
- Free Online Money Management | Mint
- Investing Is Easy When It’s Automated | Wealthfront
- Gain Total Control of Your Money | YNAB
- How did generative art bring Kevin and me to Marfa, Texas recently, and when was the last time we really got to hang out? [05:59]
- What have we been drinking? [10:41]
- Kevin and his best friend Toaster’s latest forays into biohacking. [15:54]
- Saffron highs and the calming joy of Pym mood chews. [25:56]
- Bad ideas for conquering COVID and good TV for anyone passing time in convalescence or in need of psychological comfort. [31:14]
- On wine clubs in high demand, and how NFTs can be used for the purpose of membership allocation. [39:02]
- Kevin’s own utility NFT announcement, and why he’s devoting so much of his time to the NFT space these days. [45:51]
- DAO (decentralized autonomous organization) and Dilbert discourse. [49:53]
- Kevin applies his unique superpowers to how I might best make use of utility NFTs and the wide, wild world of Web3. [52:53]
- What’s with the adoption of .xyz domains by crypto nerds? [1:01:28]
- How my non-profit foundation has entered the crypto world, and thoughts on once-unthinkable strides in the mainstream acceptance — from both sides of the political aisle — of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. [1:02:42]
- Can at-home ketamine treatment work, and is it safe? [1:10:32]
- My own recent experience with the dreaded COVID: from precautions taken to treatments administered to lingering effects. [1:14:41]
- Thoughts on the vaccine’s effect on fertility, and a suggestion for anyone trying to make the right decisions around scientific unknowns. [1:43:23]
- Holiday gifts. [1:49:15]
- Kevin’s financing and budgeting tools. [1:56:10]
- Parting thoughts. [2:02:21]
- Peter Attia
- Toaster Pino Rose
- Darya Rose
- Molly Ferriss
- Zak Williams
- Robin Williams
- Jerry Seinfeld
- Bob Einstein
- Larry David
- Sarah Silverman
- Garry Shandling
- Sarah Jessica Parker
- Kanye West
- Michael Jordan
- Scott Adams
- Chris Dixon
- Naval Ravikant
- Tony Robbins
- Gary Vaynerchuk
- Erick Snowfro
- Robbie Heeger
- Zach Bronstein
- Rick Perry
- Rick Doblin
- Richard M. Nixon
- Nick Norris
- Steve Jurvetson
- Genevieve Jurvetson
- Arnold Schwarzenegger
- Carl Weathers
- Chris Sacca
- Dylan Beynon
- Ken Onion
- Murray Carter
- Matt Walker
- Abraham Lincoln
- Scrooge McDuck
- Ramit Sethi
- Mr. Money Mustache
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24 Replies to “The Random Show — Biohacking, Tim’s COVID Experience, Holiday Gift Ideas, Favorite New Apps, Bad Science, Quarantine Delights, and a Small Dose of NFTs and DAOs (#549)”
Love the Dil Doa idea. And ownership NFTs info. If you haven’t heard about it, you should look at what Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher are doing with cartoons and in this space. Pretty cool!
@Tim it’s off topic completely.
What do you say a person who does work that she doesn’t like and has no idea how to change that and what she might like doing for a living?
I’m glad you successfully recovered from COVID-19. Thanks for talking about it on this episode.
Great show. Love hearing the hacks. Peter attia keeps coming across my radar. Can’t seem to find his office location in NYC? Any help appreciated.
Glad to hear you are on the mend — the disinformation / sheer stupidity / haters railing against vaccine / vaccine efficacy drives me insane; your perspective is coherent and consistent with what clinicians (with a brain) promulgate (my husband is one who – by the way – worked in the trenches from March 2020 on while all the ‘misinformed’ sheltered at home…). Also, I nominated our 15 yo yorkie for the Dog Aging Project and will speak to our vet about rapamycin during her next acupuncture visit…thanks for funding this important work! And thanks for – bottom line – funding scientific inquiry. Science is the empirical, reproducible understanding of our world as we know and experience it – it is not ‘left’ or ‘right’ or ‘liberal’ or ‘conservative.’ Thanks, be well and happy holidays.
That’s so cool your husband is a doctor and worked on the frontlines. Does he share any tidbits on adverse reactions? My brother is blind now (arterial rupture) and has no income now, thanks to a mandate.
Hey Tim! Thank you for an amazing work. I really need your help selling my book on Amazon. What is the best way to sell my book? [Moderator: LinkedIn and Amazon links removed.]
I was wondering if you were wearing a mask when you were in the van where you think you got COVID.
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Response to Tim’s question for the writers out there: Do you agree or disagree with this? Why or why not?
“A writer is unfair to himself when he is unable to be hard on himself.”
— Marianne Moore
This is so relevant to my practice and experience of writing, which is in the crowded addiction-recovery space. My short answer is yes—I do my audience disservice, and therefore myself, by failure to set the bar as high as possible in terms of relevance and understandability. Longer response—part of the value I offer is translating for people like Nora Volkow, Anna Lembke and Andrew Huberman; sadly, those who most need cutting-edge information and wisdom are least able to interpret it from the direct source. In addition to direct reader communication, I need to function as an impartial observer of that communication, a lesson from the quantum model. If I’m not objective, I’m screwed.
Fantastic podcast! Regarding the budgeting apps: If you’re looking for something like YNAB, but more privacy focused, it might be worth trying out Actual Budget. It’s extremely similar to YNAB, but it has built-in end-to-end encryption. I’m still on YNAB, but I’m planning to switch to Actual next year.
Great question Stefan. I have something similar in mind regarding Security vs Privacy vs Usability in Web2 vs Web3 applications
Do you know of any services, that offer the same usability of KUBERA, copilot & Co put taking a different approach at collecting and storing your personal information? Have you heard of new web3 projects in the making that you can recommend checking out?
My question is related to your knowledge in budgeting / asset mgmt tools like the ones you recommended (KUBERA, copilot, etc).
Most of the modern finance webapps use plaid or similar services to connect to your bank accounts and import the necessary data from there.
Doing a quick research, I found this article on stackoverflow flagging that services like plaid a privacy/security nightmare (see below)
I want to point out that despite Plaids apparently honest attempts at security, their approach is a privacy nightmare, as you give full access to Plaid, to all and every single information your bank has on you, including loans, funds, investment accounts, credit card statements, address, etc. This makes Plaid differ substantially from other payment services, such as PayPal, as they only have your account number.
If you don’t believe me, here’s their data collection description from their privacy statement (Effective Date: February 22, 2021, my italics). found at https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/198005/is-plaid-a-service-which-collects-user-s-banking-login-information-safe-to-use
Hi, Tim. I created something you might find worthy of a discussion on your podcast. It’s called Concept Companion. It’s a deck of 88 cards, each of which explains and provides an example of an important concept (e.g., comparative advantage, 80-20 rule, confirmation bias, the law of accelerating returns, Ben Franklin effect). I created it to teach my daughter what I viewed as the most important and practical concepts from a variety of disciplines. I got the idea from a speech Charlie Munger gave at the USC Business School. (Charlie and his daughter were pleased that his speech was the catalyst behind the project.) Because you are committed to personal mastery and to gaining an edge in life, I thought the project might be of interest to you. I’d be delighted to discuss it with you. Thanks!
Another great episode guys! Feels like hanging out with old friends every time you do these. I was wondering what you think about the Gala Games company? Looks like more than just a “project” they’ve got a bunch of games in the works and one released. Generative 3D (voxel) pfp series and art by Frank Miller. P2E features on games that are actually fun in their own right. Seems to be way ahead of a lot of the other offerings out there. Would love to get your take.
Hey, Tim – I remember you were loathe to promote a product you haven’t used…so what’s your take on Tonal? Price is on-par with a couple of Xfit gym memberships, aside from maxing out around 200# of resistance is it close to the same physical effect?
Yes! Have carried the Leek for several years now. On #2 (TSA got first). Very slick once you practice opening a few times.
Love that you did NERT training in SF. Also appreciate your implementation of the 2:1 1:0 rule at your place in Austin. Well done!
As you may have gathered during the TX Big Freeze, there are lots of folks still misguided in following the myth of solo survivalism. Group resilience with neighbors is a more sustainable approach.
If of interest, take a peek at the replicable NGO model my crew built over the last 10 years. We look at community preparedness through a unique lens of love, rather than fear: [Moderator: domain name removed per link policy.].
I’ve also documented a number of the practical (yet fun!) group resilience projects (with a heavy emphasis on permaculture) we’ve done on our island of 24K folks near Seattle that you might find useful: [Moderator: domain name removed per link policy.]
First time commenting; apologies for not knowing the link policy.
NGO is called Bainbridge Prepares. Book is called “Prepared Neighborhoods: Creating Resilience One Street at a Time”.
I try to find the episode where Tim interviews a man who wrote a book, worked as a trucker and lived in a forest where everynight a wild cat would come close to his place. Anyone know the name of the guy?
Hi, japvanarendonk –
It’s the Steven Pressfield episode, which you can find here: https://tim.blog/2021/02/26/steven-pressfield/.
You can find the transcript here: https://tim.blog/2021/02/27/steven-pressfield-transcript/ .
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Regarding Oura and Covid-19, when did the ring recognize elevated body temperature? I‘m an Oura user too and I learned that the body temp measurement is a early warning sign (that your body is fighting off an infection).
How did this hold true in your case?
Hey Tim, I am actually experiencing the issue you did where you wake up at 4am and have an extremely rapid heartbeat. It happened to me for 3 or 4 weeks every morning after recovering from COVID and now it seems to pop up every now and then if I’m stressed or overstimulated. Did you ever get any input from a doctor on what that might be and if it’s something to worry about? My doctor did an EKG and blood work and said it was probably just anxiety but the every night thing made me think otherwise…
Tim I certainly hope you don’t suffer one one of the adverse reactions that has killed many, many many people and caused very serious injuries to many more. That’s what’s been reported and recorded, that is. At least in the US they are more honest and upfront about recording these adverse events unlike in Australia for example where they just pretend they don’t exist. Kind of impressive actually for the first ever vaccine that doesn’t work the first time, doesn’t work the second time, oops may not work the third time – in Israel they are fingers crossed the 4th time may do something here’s hoping! So I have in my possession an interview with the inventor of the PCR test. He plainly states it is not a diagnostic instrument. It’s a hypothetical study or research tool. It literally can’t identify the nature of type of virus it detects. It can’t tell the difference between influenza and ‘covid’ or any other. It finds fragments of rna, the ‘dead’ shell of a virus that once was. It could have been a virus that was present weeks or months prior. This result is then amplified until a result is found. Labs do between 35-45 cycles of amplification to create a result. At these numbers of cycles there is no remaining biological sample, the outcome is literally manufactured. This is all extensively documented and even the CDC and the New York Times and other mainstream sources have covered this. Large numbers of scientists have protested against the veracity of this test. The Supreme Court in Portugal ruled against it as a diagnostic device, upheld on appeal. I have a copy of that ruling. So some of you will argue ‘but the genomic sequencing they do proves the test result is a real positive!’. Sounds nice, but where is the genome? I haven’t been able to find it, to see what it looks like. They have to get that genome from somewhere. One would imagine a real tissue sample, an in vitro specimen of covid for their research and testing. Sounds good. Wheres that? Well the CDC literature I have in my posseession admits they don’t have a sample, a specimen. I also have freedom of information requests to a great many primary medical research facilities. All the central, major ones for a given country. In the US, Australia, Canada, England, New Zealand. Scotland, South Africa. Ireland I think also. Can you show me the documents detailing an isolated sample of Covid, and also, specificall, ‘delta variant’ that you were surely using for your research, development, to test the vaccines against – every possible thing that is being implement has to start somewhere. Surely it all comes back to source principals – ‘here we have a virus, in our hand, that we can study and test and trial and etc etc..’ Every single agency and department, without fail, responded they had no documents in their possession nor could they refer to anyone who had such documents, to indicate the existence of an isolated in vitro specimen or sample of covid-19 nor delta variant.
Thanks TimTim and KevKev for another great discussion of all things modern and relevant in today’s social situation.
I love the idea of a Tim Ferriss Show NFT.
Some of the things I would love to have that would take little effort/ or totally automated.
– automatic email of the show notes post listening to the show (so I can easily read them afterwards without hunting for the URL on your website, which took ages for this btw)
– Voting on Q&As via a private Discord/ Reddit
– More likely to have staff reply to a comment (not you perse)
– a more detailed 5 bullet Friday maybe with expanded thoughts/ the uncut version
Just some ideas. I invite other listeners to add their thoughts in reply to this.