“And then I wake up at 7:00 a.m., and I roll over and look at my phone. And I have a notification from Shopify saying that I made my first sale for $149. And I let out this huge, orgasmic noise of relief. I was like, ‘Wow. Everything’s going to be okay.’” — Allen Walton
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In detail, we uncover a real-world case study of someone who built a seven-figure business after reading The 4-Hour Workweek (and other resources, of course).
Two important people joined me for this jam session.
First is Allen Walton (@allenthird), founder of SpyGuy, an online security store based in the Dallas, Texas area. Walton struggled in high school and spent a few years playing video games before his mom made him apply for a job at a local surveillance chain, where he worked from 2009-2011. He became interested in starting his own business after being exposed to The 4-Hour Workweek. In 2014, he went out on his own and started SpyGuy, his current business. He built the business to $1 million in revenue on his own, relying on what he learned in books and podcasts, and it now brings in seven-figure revenue with five employees.
The second person joining me is journalist Elaine Pofeldt (@elainepofeldt), an independent journalist and speaker who specializes in careers and entrepreneurship. She is the author of The Million-Dollar, One-Person Business: Make Great Money. Work the Way You Like. Have the Life You Want, in which she looks at how entrepreneurs are scaling to $1 million in revenue prior to hiring employees.
In this episode we explore the specifics of key decisions, helpful tools, early mistakes, and much more, all leading to a business that has exceeded all expectations. I had a blast doing this one, and I hope you have a blast listening!
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Scroll below for links and show notes…
SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Connect with Allen Walton:
- Connect with Elaine Pofeldt:
- The Million-Dollar, One-Person Business: Make Great Money. Work the Way You Like. Have the Life You Want. by Elaine Pofeldt
- The 4-Hour Workweek by Timothy Ferriss
- Fortune Small Business
- The 4-Hour Body: An Uncommon Guide to Rapid Fat-Loss, Incredible Sex, and Becoming Superhuman by Timothy Ferriss
- Fear-Setting: The Most Valuable Exercise I Do Every Month by Tim Ferriss
- DEAL: Define, Eliminate, Automate, Liberate
- Google Ads
- Google Shopping
- 1,000 True Fans by Kevin Kelly
- Choose Yourself! by James Altucher
- The Millionaire Fastlane: Crack the Code to Wealth and Live Rich for a Lifetime by M.J. DeMarco
- I Will Teach You to Be Rich by Ramit Sethi
- How to Be a Successful Copywriter: From a Man Who’s Written Million Dollar Emails by Ramit Sethi
- The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing by Al Ries and Jack Trout
- The 22 Immutable Laws of Branding: How to Build a Product or Service into a World-Class Brand by Al Ries and Laura Ries
- Positioning: The Battle for Your Mind by Al Ries and Jack Trout
- Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap…And Others Don’t by Jim Collins
- Table Top Photo Photography Studio Lighting Tent Kit in a Box
- The Masterplan by Oasis
- Welcome Interstate Managers by Fountains of Wayne
- How to Write Seductive Web Copy: An Easy Guide to Picking Up More Customers by Henneke Duistermaat
- In-N-Out Burger
- Dynamite Jobs
- We Work Remotely
- The New One Minute Manage by Ken Blanchard and Spencer Johnson M.D.
- IRCE: Internet Retailer Conference
- Dynamite Circle
- South by Southwest (SXSW)
- Ideal Lifestyle Costing (And Dreamlining) by Tim Ferriss
- Yahoo! Store
- Help Scout
- Third-Party Logistics (3PL): Everything You Need to Find the Right Shipping Provider, Shopify
- Stock Keeping Unit (SKU), Investopedia
- Traction: Get a Grip on Your Business by Gino Wickman
- Scaling Up: How a Few Companies Make It…and Why the Rest Don’t by Verne Harnish
- Rocks, Pebbles, and Sand Story, Litmos Heroes
- The ONE Thing: The Surprisingly Simple Truth Behind Extraordinary Results by Gary Keller and Jay Papasan
- Request for Quote (RFQ), Investopedia
- Priest at Center of Hidden Camera Scandal Refuses Church Order to Return by Emily E. Smith, The Oregonian
- Trust Me, I’m Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator by Ryan Holiday
- Rossen Reports: How to Spot Hidden Cameras in Hotels, Vacation Rentals, The Today Show
- Adult Coloring Books
- The Tropical MBA Podcast
- How the Coffee Cup Sleeve Was Invented by Colleen Connolly, Smithsonian Magazine
- This Month in NASA History: Winglets Helped Save an Industry, APPEL News
- How Elaine Pofeldt and I first met. [05:10]
- Who is Allen Walton? [06:35]
- Why did Allen make the switch from overworked and under-appreciated employee to entrepreneur? [07:33]
- How did Allen come across The 4-Hour Workweek? [11:51]
- What were Allen’s first steps toward building his own business? He shares early notes about fear-setting and the DEAL framework. [13:18]
- Did Allen keep his full-time job while working on his own business as a side hustle, or did he go all in? [17:32]
- What were Allen’s next steps toward getting his brand and products in front of people in a competitive market? [20:32]
- What books and resources does Allen recommend to people who are trying to carve out their own business niche and be seen by potential customers? [21:57]
- While pulling all-nighters and taking product images for his first website, what albums did Allen listen to on repeat? [27:50]
- What it was like for Allen to finalize his website and make his first sale. [29:02]
- As a married man, how did the conversation with his wife go when he decided to start his own business? [32:12]
- Allen describes his chaotic inventory storage situation in those days and the process between a customer placing an order to having it delivered. [34:55]
- What are ePackets and FBA sellers? [43:22]
- How did Allen select the products that would comprise the majority of his initial inventory, and what human edge did he have over the competition thanks to his retail experience? [45:32]
- What led to Allen hiring his first employee, and where did he look for the ideal candidate? [49:35]
- What Allen learned about managing a team not long after he hired a second employee. [54:59]
- Given retrospective advice from his future self, how would Allen’s hiring process for that second employee have gone differently? [57:42]
- Job boards Allen recommends for finding quality remote workers. [58:42]
- A books Allen recommends to anyone on the path to become a better manager. [1:00:17]
- Aside from hiring an unqualified friend, what other early mistakes did Allen make? How might hiring the right employees help alleviate these mistakes, and where would he find them? [1:01:13]
- Conferences recommended for e-commerce networking that are actually worth a damn, and tips we have for maximizing their effectiveness. [1:04:17]
- How did Allen handle targeted monthly income, dreamlining, and lifestyle goals when he first got his business going? [1:09:28]
- A lot of Internet retailers operate on Amazon; SpyGuy does not. What is Allen’s reasoning behind this decision? [1:12:51]
- Allen wants to begin manufacturing his own products under the SpyGuy brand. What does that process look like right now? [1:15:20]
- Tools Allen has found helpful for automation and greater efficiency. [1:16:45]
- Dire third-party logistics (3PL) problems Allen and I have both faced. [1:20:36]
- How does Allen most efficiently manage his time? [1:23:07]
- What is the criteria for products Allen wants to start manufacturing first, and what kind of customers does SpyGuy primarily serve? [1:26:33]
- Allen tells us about the time his company assisted in a child predator case and the media attention surrounding the event. [1:28:23]
- The mixed blessing of product demand spurred by The Today Show and regrets about SpyGuy’s biggest day of sales. [1:34:12]
- Highlights of Allen’s journey so far he would never have predicted at its start. [1:36:52]
- Podcasts Allen recommends. [1:39:15]
- What does Allen hope to accomplish over the year ahead on business and personal fronts? [1:44:27]
- Final thoughts. [1:47:15]
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