Discipline, Sex, Psychedelics, and More — The Return of Drunk Dialing (#306)

This episode is a rare exception to the rule — unlike my usual long-form interviews, this is a drunk-dialing Q&A with you guys, which I’ve done a few times in the last few years, including for the celebration of the 100th episode of this podcast. In preparation for this episode, I solicited phone numbers from listeners who wanted to receive a call from me, and then I started drinking and dialing, answering questions and getting a little frisky along the way.

In this episode, I cover topics such as:

  • How Jocko Willink has made me more disciplined
  • My thoughts on sex as a “doorway to a higher perception”
  • My past experiences with stimulants and psychedelics
  • How I determine if a project is working or not. In other words, how do I decide when I should persevere or quit a project and move on?
  • How I think about teaching
  • And much, much more!

Please enjoy this tequila-fueled Q&A!

You can find the transcript of this episode here. Transcripts of all episodes can be found here.

Discipline, Sex, and Psychedelics -- The Return of Drunk Dialing

Want to hear another episode when I’m drunk? — Listen to my 100th podcast. In this episode, we discuss tantric sex, how I view and organize my various income streams, marketing yourself in job interviews, and much, much more (stream below or right-click here to download):

#103: Drunk Dialing Fans--Celebrating The 100th Podcast Episode!

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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

Scroll below for links and show notes…

Selected Links from the Episode

Show Notes

  • Does having Jocko Willink in my life make me more disciplined? [5:36]
  • What am I drinking today? [11:51]
  • What states of higher perception can we cultivate through training? [16:50]
  • How might this type of training translate into other areas of life? [22:45]
  • Alternatives to psychedelics for people living in places where their use is criminalized (and what we might do to change this). [26:45]
  • What (aside from luck) has contributed to my ability to reach and teach my current audience? [32:36]
  • How do I determine when a project that might be exciting to me isn’t exciting to my audience? [44:57]
  • Why it sometimes pays to power through a dreadfully uncomfortable project with or without feedback from others. [51:06]

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Felix Markman
Felix Markman
6 years ago

Hey Tim,

I just enjoyed to your latest podcast, ‘Discipline, Sex, Psychedelics, and More — The Return of Drunk Dialing’. How do we submit questions for next time?

Cheers,

Felix

Liz Nix
Liz Nix
6 years ago

The overwhelm is strong with this one, Tim, I’m sorry I have to unsubscribe, too much going on right now, but I like you too much to just build a habit of ignoring you. My constructive criticism, please pack less into each article/email so I can just take a bite-sized tidbit with me throughout the day. Thanks!

dayana424
dayana424
6 years ago

Hola Tim!

Thanks so much for getting drunk with us. It was an amazing experience to chat with you and witness first hand your ability to find the essential while keeping your attention to the big picture… There was so much to learn from your answers that I couldn’t wait to hear them again!!

Looking back I regret not telling you more about what I do and especially how you’ve inspired me… and literally changed my life! by introducing me to Jerzy Gregorek in your podcast. After meeting Jerzy in person I became one of the Happy Body Mentors, which has transformed my life and the lives of the people I work with. 🙏🏻

THANK YOU! For your honest, commited lifestyle and body of work, that keeps inspiring others and making the world a better place! I sincerely hope we can meet one day!!

Cheers,

~Dayana Pereira

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Felix Markman
Felix Markman
6 years ago
Reply to  dayana424

Hi Dayana,

Congrats on getting a call from Tim. I’m curious about how we submit questions for these call-in shows. I’d appreciate any tips you have on submitting a question to get a call from Tim next time he does this show.

Thanks,

Felix

Dayana Pereira
Dayana Pereira
6 years ago
Reply to  Felix Markman

Hi Felix!

Thank you!! It was very exciting to think about what to ask the “Questions Master” and amazing to actually connect with him. Lots of wisdom and humble mastery he shares with us 💜 Honored to be part of his podcast that has transformed parts of my life.

This is how it worked:

One lucky afternoon Tim tweeted his plan to call fans for a “drunk Q & A” that same evening, along with a Google form we had to complete and submit.

He then called the first 10-20 people that submitted the complete form with pur phone numbers.

I guess a combo of good timing and courage put me on that list🙏

He did this before to celebrate Episode #100, this is #306. So we can “maybe?” predict he’ll do it again for Episode #500? You never know with Tim😍

I’d stay stay connected. You may be in the next one!

Love,

Dayana

Maya
Maya
6 years ago

Love your podcast but I have a few requests.

1. MORE INTERVIEWS WITH WOMEN!!

2. Address parenting and (if applicable) how these brilliant people juggled having kids and getting to where they are. Addressing both men and women on this subject. Desperate for more tips on how to do both and not loose my mind.

3. Interviews with people in the world of design.

Thank you!

Simone
Simone
6 years ago
Reply to  Maya

yesss… i’d have to agree. But i guess that’s not where Tim is right now. Maybe follow a gal that’s doing this??

lalaland
lalaland
6 years ago
Reply to  Maya

parenting? why? does Tim even have kids? not sure this is the blog that should be addressing those issues…..

Chris Krivanek
Chris Krivanek
6 years ago

I don’t understand the appeal of getting drunk and calling people. For a podcast that addresses so much about human health and quality of life, you think there’d be a little more awareness about how many lives are regularly ruined by alcohol.

Phil Breidenbach
Phil Breidenbach
6 years ago

Great Interview with Daniel Pink…Even better in a Podcast than in print.

I’m in Austin in two weeks (first time) and need a cool “Cheat Day” breakfast place to visit with a friend. What’s you favorite?

Liza
Liza
6 years ago

Hi Tim,

This is a bit off topic for this week’s podcast… but I’ve noticed you have been asking your interviewees a lot about coming of age ritual in your podcasts and thought you might be interested to know about The Man Kind project. I learned about it through a friend of mine who goes to their groups weekly. The idea (how he explained it to me) is that our society lacks coming of age rituals for men to support growth and developing a sense of independence and identity. This group attempts to fill that gap and create an environment where that can be possible. Check it out!

Luke Traeger
Luke Traeger
6 years ago

Hi Tim,

Could you do an episode soon about interesting or fun life shakeups to try? Things that are small and could be easy to implement, such as adding or removing something from your diet, taking cold showers, talking to one new person a day, etc.

Thanks for everything!

Nell
Nell
6 years ago

Thanks for your support of psychedelic research & psychedelic assisted therapy. I’ve worked in associated areas for the past several years & I am so glad that research & trials are now resuming after being on hold for… well, most of my life. I’m delighted to now be in a post-grad training program so that I can contribute to this work &, maybe, eventually, provide this treatment for some of our patients in the most need.

No reply necessary (though always welcome), just wanted to express thanks. 🙂

Laura
Laura
6 years ago

I just wanted to say thank you, Tim.

I find all your books very inspiring and I love your podcasts. They are a great incentive for me to get things done while learning new things and be inspired by all the amazing people you interview.

I just wanted to share that I have been following your slow carb diet for about a month. I switched from eating vegan to eating pescatarian to up my protein intake and lose weight. I lost over 11 inches total but no pounds on the scale. Thank you for emphazing measuring your progress or I might have gotten discouraged on my journey.

Sincerely, thank you, and sorry for this post for being kinda off topic.

Bryce
Bryce
6 years ago

Fantastic episode…would like to hear more about his fitness regimen though.

Simone
Simone
6 years ago

LOVE your work Tim, thank you, love all of your books! A couple of questions (i’m getting thru all of your podcasts but can’t find these answers yet)

1. How do you find cool/mentors to hang with and learn (you are who you hang out with)? If you live in the burbs? You mention you have uber cool friends that you hang with. Do we have to move to the city? we’re in australia

2. Tony Robbins talks about cryo and infrared lasers as part of his regime. Have you trialled them for you?

Samuel Wright
Samuel Wright
6 years ago

Hi Tim,

Love the show and your advice/guests/reading suggestions are having a big impact on my life re-set at the age of 37.

One question.

Being born in 1980 (in Australia I should add) I’m one of those who have had, “an analogue childhood and digital adulthood.” At the time things such as computing were not core school classes and for those looking to go to university it wasn’t a class that would count towards admission. So, I’m sadly lacking in the tech side of things. I’ve had a career in sales after getting and never using liberal arts degrees from university. Now I’m looking at a variety of career changes and I want to fill this tech knowledge gap somewhat and am looking at building additional competencies to suit a modern career. Additionally, I want a knowledge base to put me in a better position to consider tech investments.

Any suggestions for where to start? I’m thinking books to read, online courses etc. Should I look to gain basic knowledge of coding/web development etc to understand the nuts and bolts or would this likely have little utility to me.

Your thoughts are much appreciated.

P.s Could you keep in mind my location in Australia and keep any answers non-US specific.

thistlehill
thistlehill
6 years ago

about Andy Goldsworthy, I have his “coffee table” books and his video. LOVE his work! I also have your books Tim, I enjoy the podcast and have been striving to adopt bits and pcs of your 4 hour workweek. Keep doing what you are doing. Thank you xoxo Rhonda

Jennifer Stonestreet
Jennifer Stonestreet
6 years ago

Hi Tim,

Listening to this podcast struck a chord with me in the sense that you seem to pursue multiple interests in multiple directions at once and also seem to define success in somewhat non traditional ways.

I’ve led a somewhat non traditional career path and often find myself feeling a bit stuck and frustrated because this path hasn’t lent itself to usual markers of success.

I’m in my early thirties and have had successful careers in a variety of markets (education research, railroad, citizenship and immigration, higher education, automotive, massage therapy, etc.) and within those jobs more often than not end up being asked to take on projects well outside of the scope of what I was hired to do.

A coworker of mine recently told me that I am the most “low-key intelligent” person he’s ever met. I think what he meant is that my skill sets aren’t easily definable or even obvious at first but wherever I go I end up enacting massive positive change, bringing together people/programs/policies in innovative ways that help resolve issues and elevate the workplace in ways that leadership didn’t even realize needed to occur and were delighted to have had happen. Usually I accomplish this by quietly elevating and encouraging a few key folks around me, nudging others in a new direction, and letting those folks celebrate the successes as their own, eliminating the need for trying to get their buy in to a solution. I’ve changed fundamental policies, saved dying programs, restructured departments, increased efficiency and overall workplace moral all under the guise of performing my duties as support staff or an analyst. And I love it. I love the challenge of finding creative solutions and uplifting those around me. Mentoring peers to great success. Seeing pain points and using them as catalysts for change. Finding and fixing the root causes of issues and empowering people to drastically improve their quality of work.

However, this career path is problematic in a number of ways:

1. When the problems are resolved and things are running smoothly, I lose interest being left with just the support staff or analyst role I was hired to do.

2. I have no idea how to define, and more importantly market, this skill set.

3. I feel trapped by the lower-mid level titles I’ve performed this work under and don’t know how to find a job where I can compensated appropriately for the work I love doing.

4. I don’t want to spend all of my days trapped in an office. I’m also a licensed massage therapist and LOVE that work but cannot do it full time (due to finances, my bodies own limits, and the fact that I also want to be analytically engaged) but don’t want to have to give it up entirely either due to an office job with long hours

I’m wondering if you might have any advice or insight that might help me find an actual career for this skill set and/or a way to market these skills.

Thank you!

Jory Sanders
Jory Sanders
5 years ago

“I would like to add my vote for an episode revolving around Holotropic Breathwork and other legal modalities that facilitate access higher states of consciousness, in the context of self-realization and healing.”

Seconded!

Alex Perry
Alex Perry
6 years ago

Hi Tim!

You talked in this episode towards the end about paying attention to things that really spark your interest. I think you used a cooler expression for it than that… But I digress… When you mentioned holotropic breathwork, well, that definitely sparked my interest. Since listening to this episode I’ve been doing some research.

I think it would be Awesome for you to do a podcast specifically on holotropic breathwork! I’m super interested in it, and it seems like there isn’t thaaaat much info on it out there.

Much love,

Alex

luckylucyvandelft
luckylucyvandelft
6 years ago
Reply to  Alex Perry

I discovered it by accident years ago but didnt know if it was a good idea to keep doing since I knew nothing about it. I vote for this as well.

dayana424
dayana424
6 years ago

Hi all!

I would like to add my vote for an episode revolving around Holotropic Breathwork and other legal modalities that facilitate access higher states of consciousness, in the context of self-realization and healing.

Tim, your episodes that touch on Meditation are very good and I’m sure are benefitting many listeners. Especially knowing how many of your Tribe of Mentors and Titans recommend meditating!! I am sure you are happy to see your audience’s interest in psychedelics and gather as much support as possible for its research as well.

These are topics about which I’m passionate, and very interested in, since I know their effects are sound.

Would it be possible to bring some of Stan Grof’s students or practitioners for a Holotropic episode? As an experienced “breather” I know that this work is profound and must be done under experience guidance. If you ever consider doing a “virtual round table” with specialists and people that have practiced with good, long lasting results, you know how to find me 🙂

Thanks for considering! Hope to have sparked some interest. Hasta pronto!

Cheers,

Dayana

Cindy Hymer
Cindy Hymer
6 years ago

That was painful. No more with the public please

Sally
Sally
5 years ago

Hey Tim, I love your animal curiosity and rabid quest for answers.

Here’s a conundrum I’m chomping at the bit to figure out, and I’m hoping it tickles your fancy:

How can I teach/support/encourage a practicing stoic to tap into his sensuality and sexuality? (Please, god, I hope they’re in there somewhere.)

nadja maolovic
nadja maolovic
4 years ago

Hi Tim,

I heard your talk about depression and suicided and wanted to thank you for sharing your experience. It helped me to open up about my experience and change the way I feel about a particular period in my life. It also made me feel normal and not ashamed.

Once start openly talking about depression I was surprised to see how many people are still uncomfortable when the subject is presented and how they try so hard to ignore it or dismiss.

Again, thank you for being open and sharing.

nadja

Shanny Schmitt
Shanny Schmitt
2 years ago

i have been into psychedelic research for a while now and your article really gives me the motivation i need to keep on going what a great work it is which you are doing

Marc Powell
Marc Powell
1 year ago

THANKS FOR THE CONTENT IT WAS VERY ENRICHING