Dissecting the Success of Malcolm Gladwell (#168)

Malcolm Gladwell

“For every hour I spend writing, I spend three hours thinking about writing.” – Malcolm Gladwell

Malcolm Gladwell (@gladwell) is the author of five New York Times bestsellers — The Tipping Point, Blink, Outliers, What the Dog Saw, and David and Goliath. He has been named one of the 100 most influential people by TIME magazine and one of the Foreign Policy’s Top Global Thinkers.

He has explored how ideas spread in the Tipping Point, decision making in Blink, the roots of success in Outliers, and the advantages of disadvantages in his latest book David and Goliath. In his latest podcast project, Revisionist History, Gladwell examines the way the passage of time changes and enlightens our understanding of the world around us.

In this in-depth, in-person conversation, we cover a ton, including:

  • His research and writing process
  • How he learned to ask good (and “dumb”) questions
  • Favorite books
  • Routines, habits, and tools
  • How he pulls together seemingly unrelated stories into a cohesive theme (and eventually a book)
  • Philosophies related to public speaking
  • His obsession with running
  • Why he eats as little as possible in the mornings
  • And much more…

If you only have 5 minutes, listen to Gladwell’s creative “recipes” for storytelling.

Enjoy!

#168: Dissecting the Success of Malcolm Gladwell

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145: The Interview Master: Cal Fussman and the Power of Listening

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QUESTION OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

Scroll below for links and show notes…

Selected Links from the Episode

  • Connect with Malcolm Gladwell:

Twitter | Facebook | Website | Podcast

Show Notes

  • What have been the easiest — and hardest — books for Malcolm to write? [08:05]
  • Who does Malcolm consider to be the “gold standard” of storytellers? [09:30]
  • What working at The Washington Post for 10 years taught Malcolm about dealing with writer’s block. [12:30]
  • Malcolm on story structure. [15:07]
  • As early as the research stage, sometimes good stories write themselves. [18:27]
  • Malcolm on taking and organizing notes. [22:18]
  • How does Malcolm determine what starts a chapter (or a book)? [24:49]
  • Trying different creative “recipes” for storytelling. [26:04]
  • How Malcolm plans his speaking keynotes (and how he got better at it). [28:24]
  • Malcolm’s speaking hero. [30:36]
  • The elements of a good speaking performance. [33:17]
  • Tying stories together to support a theme. [35:32]
  • Getting better at asking questions. [40:55]
  • The most worthwhile investment (of time) Malcolm has made. [45:57]
  • Malcolm’s favorite failures. [48:18]
  • Malcolm’s morning routines. [50:55]
  • Why is Lapsang Souchong a controversial tea? [51:30]
  • Why Malcolm prefers writing in noisy public places. [53:46]
  • How Malcolm winds down from a day of work. [54:42]
  • Malcolm’s bedtime routine. [55:45]
  • The worst advice shared with young people today. [57:27]
  • Malcolm’s flaws that turned into strengths. [1:02:07]
  • Malcolm on giving and receiving advice. [1:04:38]
  • The first person who comes to mind when Malcolm thinks of the word “successful.” [1:05:43]
  • Systems Malcolm relies upon. [1:10:28]
  • Two necessary contradictions elite runners face. [1:12:21]
  • Books Malcolm has gifted the most. [1:13:18]
  • The purchase of $100 or less that has had a positive impact on Malcolm’s life. [1:17:24]
  • The most articulate person Malcolm has ever met. [1:18:29]
  • Something Malcolm believes that other people think is crazy. [1:19:09]
  • Malcolm’s reaction to Peter Thiel’s disagreement with one of his positions. [1:22:14]
  • An innovator Malcolm finds particularly inspiring. [1:24:22]
  • Advice Malcolm would give to his 30-year-old self. [1:26:39]
  • How Malcolm started podcasting. [1:30:53]
  • What Malcolm finds most novel about creating podcasts versus writing books. [1:31:46]
  • How Malcolm feels about doing another season or two of podcasting. [1:33:14]
  • What would be on Malcolm’s billboard? [1:35:18]
  • Why does Malcolm believe in the legal maxim of “Difficult cases make bad law?” [1:36:07]

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Caroline
Caroline
7 years ago

What a great conversation between two brilliant minds. I really love this one! Tim, I hope to hear from more female leaders and visionaries as this year of podcasts continues. I believe that across industries, there are women driving innovation, and they need to be more equally highlighted in your series.

Thank you for always inspiring!

Tim Ferriss
Tim Ferriss
7 years ago
Reply to  Caroline

Working on it. For whatever reason, many of the innovative women we reach out to don’t reply. At least, it’s a much smaller % response rate than with the male guests. It’s a mystery. Thanks for listening!

Brent Roberts
Brent Roberts
7 years ago

Please make “The worst advice” question a regular question for the future!

Tim Ferriss
Tim Ferriss
7 years ago
Reply to  Brent Roberts

Thanks, Brent. That’s one I”d like to repeat often.

Scott
Scott
7 years ago
Reply to  Tim Ferriss

Tim. Your interviews get better and better. I’ve listened to a lot of stuff with Malcolm Gladwell, interview wise, and this really stood out. I loved the croissant intro! I recenty started an interview/hybrid talk show podcast for a spirituality and culture group I work with. Next to Stern and Charlies Rose, you’re becoming one of the interview sensei’s in my life. I’d love to interview you about the relationship between self-improvement and self-acceptance. Keep ’em coming.

Ellen Greenlaw
Ellen Greenlaw
7 years ago

Question about Four Hour Chef- Do you have any recipes for bread?

Making sour dough bread or any other thoughts or about bread?

Seems like a big gap in a book about good food.

Tim Ferriss
Tim Ferriss
7 years ago
Reply to  Ellen Greenlaw

4HC is mostly Slow-Carb Diet compliant, so I didn’t budget much space for bread. Lots of great books already written on that subject! Check out anything by Bakery Tartine or Arizmendi.

Rap Zuckerberg (@RapZuckerberg)
Rap Zuckerberg (@RapZuckerberg)
7 years ago

First. Probably one of the most important writers this generation. Good look Timothy.

Matt Ward (@MattBnB)
Matt Ward (@MattBnB)
7 years ago

Why write 4HWW? Was it passion or wanting to create impact? Or money (I respect that)?

In similar position (had success, contemplating future and want to make difference) but wonder if it would matter and change lives.

Topic: Why College is Stupid, System is Broken and You Should Fuck Corporate America.

Background: 20 months traveling: Asia, South America, Europe etc. Experience: Turned 8k into 7 figure ecommerce business in one year.

Would love to talk or advice? Keep up great show. Check out gene drives for interesting future topic!

Cheers,

Matt

Emil
Emil
7 years ago

If you have a book in you and you feel it is important, then for all means write it! Just do it!

If you are looking to make quick cash, then a book is probably the worst possible way.

Peter Andersson
Peter Andersson
7 years ago

May I use this place to suggest a guest that would fit your show perfectly? Alright then, former olympian and sport dominant Lenny Bassham – here’s an example of why: http://trailrunnernation.com/2014/02/lanny-bassham-mental-management/

Lydia Shim
Lydia Shim
7 years ago

Tim! Thanks so much for this. 2 of my favorite writers in one podcast..I thought my brain was going to explode with joy.

Lyd
Lyd
7 years ago

Does anyone know what the tea was that Malcolm mentioned he drinks for breakfast?

Kyle Chupp
Kyle Chupp
7 years ago
Reply to  Lyd

Hey Lyd

Lapsang Souchong black tea

After hearing the description I can’t wait to try it : )

From the Selected Links above: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01A117WCQ/offsitoftimfe-20

Mason Lawlor
Mason Lawlor
7 years ago
Reply to  Lyd

Lapsang Souchong

Itumeleng Lejone
Itumeleng Lejone
7 years ago

He a great writer read blink and outlier very powerful books and brought a positive change in my life

Dan Seidman
Dan Seidman
7 years ago

How do we get the text download? I signed up for it, got the thank you page, and…?

Tim Ferriss
Tim Ferriss
7 years ago
Reply to  Dan Seidman

Hi Dan,

I’ll have my team look into this and let you know. Thanks for the heads up!

Best,

Tim

Tarique Sha
Tarique Sha
7 years ago
Reply to  Dan Seidman

Is there any option to get transcription of this audio?

webwbr
webwbr
7 years ago

Can’t wait to listen to this! My two favorite modern days writers together. Malcolm’s quote reminds me of Abe Lincoln’s “Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe.”

Matt Freeman
Matt Freeman
7 years ago

For every hour I spend writing, I spend hundreds and hundreds of hours thinking about writing. I expect I’ll catch up to Gladwell any day now.

Jaime Rothbard
Jaime Rothbard
7 years ago

Tim Ferriss! I can’t believe this is your next guest…I just read Outliers for the first time over the weekend while recovering from foot surgery. Aha!!! It gave me the foundational insight that underlies the Podcast as well as the 4 Hour Chef…tipping the hat to the world class and then hacking into the 10,000-hour rule and creating the routines. Love him, Love you. Can’t wait to hear this. I’m going to go kick some ass, even with my foot in a post-surgery boot.

Kelsey Hallmon
Kelsey Hallmon
7 years ago

Another great podcast – thanks Tim! Favorite Quote/Words of Advice from Malcolm: “Once you DON’T start at the beginning, your life gets so much simpler.”

kylechupp
kylechupp
7 years ago

Resources on asking better questions and curiosity.

This lesson lands on the heels of your round two podcast with Jamie Foxx and the impact of thinking about thinking – asking questions to yourself. I loved hearing Malcolm Gladwell talk about his Dad. Talking about his dad, Malcolm said something along the lines of ‘He has zero intellectual insecurities. It never crossed his mind to be concerned that the world may think he is an idiot.’ I love this as both a curious question asking entrepreneur, and a father. A third connection that I am excited about is from one of your other recent episodes, I believe it was with Mike Rowe, that really caught my attention on the importance of curiosity itself. It allowed my to see the value in the ability to be able to inspire curiosity.

Loved this episode Tim! Your hard work does not go unnoticed : )

lauriefait
lauriefait
7 years ago

Thanks so much…great information.

Patricia
Patricia
7 years ago

What a great conversation between you and Malcolm Gladwell. Great topics shared.. I found the portion related to higher education and college admissions most interesting.

Dennis Osorio
Dennis Osorio
7 years ago

Amazing thought and people need to really embrace this,

“Is it a place where I find myself late at night having deeply interesting conversations with people I like and find interesting? Go where you can do that.” – Malcolm Gladwell on college and post high school education. This is something I searched for my entire academic experience and although I ended up with an MBA, I never found that place. Very well said Malcolm and great podcast Tim.

Thanks

Shyamsundar Ramanathan
Shyamsundar Ramanathan
7 years ago

Amazing interview Tim. Thanks and Gladwell comes across a genuine author who has the best interests of the reader at heart. He has a wonderful knack of telling stories and as you said making complex truths easily accessible to mere mortals like me :). One suggestion is it possible to get transcripts I know you have them for a few earlier podcasts. Hope we can have that option for all of them. Thanks and have a wonderful weekend.

Shawn
Shawn
7 years ago

どうもありがとうございました, Tim-Kun!

I’ve got a small piece of love for fans out there – Brian Eno developed a bunch of statements/questions to challenge the mind to think differently about a problem, so if writers get stuck, look up Oblique Strategies.

Shawn
Shawn
7 years ago
Reply to  Shawn

alternatively, i could try listening to the whole thing before leaving a comment.

Kevin Dietmeyer
Kevin Dietmeyer
7 years ago

Gladwell is the type of conversationalist that makes listening feel like an indulgent escape. This interview is one of my favorites second to the conversation with Cal Fussman. Both of these men seem to be masters at digging into people and getting to the why. I would love a recommendation in the Ferris Book Club that takes a look at question asking/interviewing. These guys are incredible story tellers and great stories begin with great questions.

Sea-Cay
Sea-Cay
7 years ago

Great show. Suggestion for future interviews: the light hearted question towards the end. “What are/were your guilty pleasures, or a thing you do or used to do when you have an X minutes/hours of free time that your are not spending on your normal pursuits?” It adds another humanizing, possibly humorous, element to your guest’s profile to learn for instance that your typical super star caliber guest plays Angry Birds while waiting in line at the grocery store. Just a thought….

Himanshu
Himanshu
7 years ago

Thank you so much Tim! Great Episode.

I literally made 10 pages of my own notes apart from the show notes here. The metaphorical information and the literally information in your shows is outstanding. After listening to your podcasts, my intellect is like on LSD and I’m completely getting the itch of creative stuff very frequently as opposed to my usual habit of creating something and then not following-up. You are killing it Episode after episode! This inspires me so much!

Malcom interview was a good one! Jamie Foxx one was a bit downer this time! However your part (in which you answer his questions) was awe-inspiring, even though Jamie Foxx didn’t do much good this time as he was the host.Looking forward to the next one!

Thanks for Doing what you are doing!

Himanshu Sachdeva (Most likely your greatest Fan From India)

Idayu Ali
Idayu Ali
7 years ago

Tim! This is impressive. Mind was blown when you decided to interview him. I dont usually download a podcast, but these couple latest episode had me to do it even in 2am in the morning. It is so awesome I repeatedly listening to it. Very constructive question and even practical for us to apply. Thanks a lot Tim macha.

Amy
Amy
7 years ago

I’ve been enjoying your podcasts for some time, Tim. I adore Malcolm’s insights and I share them with my budding teens. On a side note, would you consider interviewing Eckhart Tolle? I manage his digital world.

David Kaplan
David Kaplan
7 years ago

Hey Tim,

Great interview thanks,

Had hoped you guys might dive into a discussion on his research of 10K hours vs your 80/20 approach… that would be interesting. Cheers

Michelle Simonsen
Michelle Simonsen
7 years ago

Love this one. Loved MG’s books, and totally felt like I was a part of an Outlier situation growing up more than one time over. Love your podcast; even met some of the Li.st developers recently at an after party at the bowl and had to give a shout out to your show.

Jan T
Jan T
7 years ago

Didn’t you flat out say on youtube that his ten thousand hours idea was wrong? Why the change of heart?

Oh yeah, here it is.

Tim Ferriss
Tim Ferriss
7 years ago
Reply to  Jan T

No change of heart. I think we agree to disagree, and I didn’t see the value of creating a tense and defensive podcast. Not much good would have come from that. These episodes are about actionable tactics, not “gotchas” or scandal.

Jan T
Jan T
7 years ago
Reply to  Tim Ferriss

That’s a reasonable point. I suppose it’s actually a plus point that you are open to interviewing people whose ideas you don’t entirely agree with. Have you ever considered interviewing someone who is very, very far removed from your world (i.e. that of technology, money, overachieving, etc)? Someone like Matthieu Ricard would be an interesting one; he’s a scientist turned Buddhist monk who’s done absolutely fascinating research into the functions of the brain, especially the brain which meditates.

Mike Cornelius
Mike Cornelius
7 years ago
Reply to  Tim Ferriss

Love how you gently slipped in reference to Peter Thiels’s view on Outliers. Malcolm’s response “That would be a reasonable view”. Classy!

The beauty in all of this is that our opinions are sometimes based on a data sample of one person. “In God we trust, all others bring data.” W. Edwards Deming

Wells Baum (@bombtune)
Wells Baum (@bombtune)
7 years ago

Malcolm Gladwell talks about his admiration for Brian Eno’s music and then reminds people about the power of music with this adage:

“The music you discover when you’re 18 is the music that stays with you the rest of your life.”

Tim – what’s the record/track you listened to at 18 that you can’t get out of your head?

My biggest takeaway of the podcast though: You’ll find your stride if you can delay gratification.

You probably won’t see this but I often blog my favorite highlights from your podcasts:

http://www.bombtune.com/?tag=tim+ferriss

Wells Baum (@bombtune)
Wells Baum (@bombtune)
7 years ago

Biggest takeaway: You’ll find your stride if you can delay gratification.Play the long game.

Frank
Frank
7 years ago

Hi Tim !

could you kindly do yourself, and your fans, the courtesy of updating your website to HTTPS for a whole variety of security reasons

It also ensures you are on the cutting edge where you should be, not

stuck 30 years behind with your security

and also, with your five bullet friday – can you please use plain ordinary links not highly complex unintelligible links. such lack of transparency would be considered highly suspect and manipulative if encountered anywhere else.

we have to ‘trust’ that the email comes from you, (no HTTPS makes this worse) that there’s no malware or spyware hidden in the links, or that some dodgy corporate entity gets paid a dollar for every time someone clicks on your links.

So, I don’t click on them. Nor do many people I know. We read the paragraphs you write and, well, that’s it.

Incidentally it’s really easy to steal emails and other personal information from this word press comments page. i use a linked alias email for that reason which can act as a filter. Many people may not be as astute.

Nicholas
Nicholas
7 years ago

Tim, I love your content and I’ve listened to every podcast thus far (as well as read your books).

This podcast was just a little disappointing for me. I felt that it would have been great to delve deeper into Gladwell’s ideas and philosophies written in his books as I believe that they complement your own quite a lot. There was barely any comparison between Gladwell’s philosophy of how people become successful and how you have designed your own life with an ability to strategise, exploit hacks and accelerate learning! 🙁

Maybe I am completely wrong and I am sure that everyone else liked the podcast. I just feel that you focused on Gladwell’s writing habits (like coping with writers block) for too long and missed an opportunity to probe him about his actual content. After all, his books are about success and successful people.

Maybe a sneaky opportunity for a follow up? 😀 😀

Keep up the good work.

BMB
BMB
7 years ago

Great conversation. I really enjoyed Malcolm talking about his father’s endless appetite for understanding through questioning and the idea of being intellectually secure enough to ask “dumb” questions without fear of judgement.

Tommy
Tommy
7 years ago

Tim I was hoping the two of you would of talked about the whole 10,000 hour theory as you did in Success Magazine on the CD with Darren Hardy. When you have round two please discuss your side as well as Malcolm’s. What does Malcolm’s brother do? I was hoping to hear about that since he mentioned being an introvert. I too wanted to know his writing process and being one myself it is always interesting to hear how some of the greats (like you Tim) have crafted their books. As a podcaster I was first told that I should not do long form. Great job Tim!! Love your shows.

Eric
Eric
7 years ago

Who was the guest who discussed something in regards to the benefit of tragedy? I remember hearing in a past podcast it didn’t connect with me at the time but I could really help me now. Any help is much appreciated.

Thank you for what you do! I discovered your podcast in August 14′. Before then, I literally read 2 books in 10 years. Close to 2 years later, I have read or listened to 50+ books. My life has improved in ways I didn’t think was possible.

mary
mary
7 years ago

“In What the Dog Saw, Malcolm Gladwell leads the reader on delightful side excursions, shows with insightful conversation how one path interweaves with another, and suggests meaning-he is, in short, an interpretative naturalist of American culture.” this is my favorite quote

Scott
Scott
7 years ago

Maybe I’m just web-stupid, but where the heck do you find a list of Tim’s podcast sponsors? I wanted to check one out, can’t remember the company name, thought it would only take a minute.

Jodi Tebb
Jodi Tebb
7 years ago

Gosh I loved this one! My favorite question you asked, was asking him about where he learned good questions. May we all remember that perceived “dumb” questions are so important to ask if you genuinely don’t know… and nobody cares that you are asking them… we all need the basics. I am going to need to listen to it a few times. Thanks for interviewing him and sharing it with us 🙂

Dovy
Dovy
7 years ago

I am sure this is not the right forum to reach out but what the hell….. On your most recent episode with Rick Dubner, you touched on the subject of mental illness/suicide and the promise of different entheogens. I want to donate (maybe not a significant amount to some but definitely a sizable sum for me) to help research the potential benefits. I know of MAPS and would like some info on their “administrative fees” and how much actually gets funneled the research. Considering you have been a donor in the past, is their “DONATE” tab on their website a legitimate route?

Kyrill Potapov
Kyrill Potapov
7 years ago

I don’t understand: why are there only two episodes on Revisionist History? Seems like he is missing out on a huge opportunity to get new listeners.

Darrell Harada
Darrell Harada
7 years ago

Re: Writers Block- Lowell Ganz and Babaloo Mandel wrote movies like City Slickers, A League of Their Own, and Parenthood. They spoke about writers block at a Maui Writer’s conference many moons ago. They learned while writing for television that when they got stuck it was because they took a wrong turn in the narrative. They would back up in the story until they found the wrong turn and could move forward again. Another thing they said is if a joke was funny to one but not the other it was immediately dropped. They both had to laugh hard at the joke or it was out.

Your interview with Gladwell is the first one I’ve replayed immediately. It has helped spark something in my process of rediscovering my writing voice. Thank you both!

Mark
Mark
7 years ago

Firstly, Niall Ferguson is SCOTTISH, not English (big distinction Malcolm!).

Secondly, Tim, can you please, please, please have him on the podcast?

Aside from public speaking, his personal output is simply stunning:

– 16 (mostly enormous) books in 16 years

– 6 documentary series for Channel 4 in the UK

– Harvard professor (soon to be at Stanford)

– Innumerable articles and speeches — a notable recent speech being this one at the Sydney Opera House: https://youtu.be/KIsZoGkedCo?t=3m7s

He’s good friends with Peter Thiel and would make a fantastic future guest!

Mark

Brian Nelson
Brian Nelson
7 years ago

Tim,

Malcolm Gladwell is responsible for my Audible consumption of somewhere between 500-600 non-fiction books in the past decade. I read the ‘Tipping Point’ on a flight to South Korea back in 2004 and my mind exploded.

It became a mandatory read for all of my Officers, and a ‘highly, highly suggested’ read for all my Soldiers. That book re-kindled my curiosity.

He is indirectly responsible, that and Amazon’s ‘others who read this have also read’ algorithm, for introducing me to your writing as well.

Your initial insight to do a long form podcast was genius. Other podcast’s I’ve listened to feel like a post-game TV interview, much less authentic.

I found it interesting to hear Malcolm refer to Michael Lewis as the greatest present day story-teller, which ironically is how I describe Gladwell to others. Lewis is great, and actually opened my eyes to the despair/frustration/anger of the OWS crowd.

Loved his comments about college, and I realized I found that place in the Army. Combat is filled with so many contradictions, but the ‘interesting conversations with people I find interesting in the middle of the night’ was one of them. I also laughed every day. Side-splitting, tears rolling laughter. Ironic, until you deploy.

Listening to this podcast I had a thought about character and values. How many of the most successful are exhibit the humility that Malcolm demonstrated during this interview? I know the show is about behaviors, but in the middle of this podcast I wanted to see ‘character’ trends of all your interviewees. What would we find there?

Thank you for having the courage to do what you do. It helps.

bsn

rajkashana
rajkashana
7 years ago

What an amazing podcast! So many insights about the writing process and many other things. I wish it could have gone on for a couple of hours more.

Dave
Dave
7 years ago

Tim, thanks for this interview! This made my week. I did not think that you would ever interview him, what with the whole 10,000 hour rule and all. What a pleasant surprise! And what a great interview. He has such an interesting mind. I could listen for hours more. Cheers!

Bill Nadraszky
Bill Nadraszky
7 years ago

Loved getting insight into the mind of Malcolm Gladwell. After reading his books it is nice to hear how his mind works. Super surprised that he finds his process sloppy as his books really give me the impression that there is so much attention to detail. The rant about universities made me laugh out loud in the car, there is some passion there 🙂

Dan
Dan
7 years ago

Malcolm, like many of your guests was fascinating! Loved getting a snapshot into his life and perspectives. Is it possible to condense the podcasts to more bite-sized chunks? The most interesting content, relevant to the masses, could be captured in 30-40 min. There were a lot of questions about his writing habits/preferences that aren’t as applicable (unless you’re a writer). Also, would love to hear more of your perspectives in podcasts without guests, but a focus on the guests when they’re on the show.

J
J
7 years ago

One word: wonderful!

Kiraz
Kiraz
7 years ago

Very good episode. Thank you for sharing. Seth Godin said there is no such thing as writer’s block. I agree with him.

Best x

Michael Park
Michael Park
7 years ago

Thanks Tim!

One great thing I seem to take from listen to your podcasts is how I can compare the actions, philosophies and failures of your guests and apply them to myself, and the decisions in my own life. The example I have been reviewing from this episode is regarding what make a great storyteller or public speaker.

SMM
SMM
7 years ago

Really enjoyed the conversation between you both. What struck me about the interview is how normal and authentic Malcolm is. Every morning reading ESPN – I can connect with that :).

I loved the passion Malcolm showed when he discussed his podcast. Definitely another one to add to the list of podcasts to listen to.

As always Tim, keep up the good work.

Willis
Willis
7 years ago

I’m curious why Gladwell eats a small breakfast. I didn’t catch that topic and dissecting the podcast was to no avail. Will someone please help me out?

Robel
Robel
6 years ago
Reply to  Willis

same, I thought he’d go into more detail.

Bill Conner
Bill Conner
7 years ago

Malcolm Gladwell got us wrong: Our research was key to the 10,000-hour rule, but here’s what got oversimplified

Yes, it takes effort to be an expert. But Gladwell based 10,000-hour rule in part on our work, and misunderstood

ANDERS ERICSSON AND ROBERT POOL

http://tinyurl.com/hsxzc8a

The Trouble With Malcolm Gladwell

I thought he was sincerely misunderstanding the science, but he knows exactly what he is doing.

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Malcolm Gladwell Unmasked: A Look Into the Life & Work of America’s Most Successful Propagandist

Posted on June 6, 2012 by Yves Smith

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Malcolm Gladwell, Eclectic Detective

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Am I Missing Something or Is Malcolm Gladwell a Fraud?

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Malcolm Gladwell Unmasked: A Look Into the Life & Work of America’s Most Successful Propagandist

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“I’m necessarily parasitic in a way. I have done well as a parasite. But I’m still a parasite.”

~Malcolm Gladwell

speculator
speculator
7 years ago

Tim,

You and Malcolm briefly mention your ideas on higher education. Any chance you have written a blog post previously fleshing out your ideas on the best routes for youngsters to embark on as they approach the college search/journey? If not, I’d love to hear your personal thoughts in long-form on pre-college routes as well as helpful alternatives or even temporary alternatives that you believe best set up the average student in the long run for a virtuous and flourishing life.

Best,

Taylor

Marsha R Peterson
Marsha R Peterson
7 years ago

Great episode! Gladwell is an excellent storyteller — he doesn’t give himself enough credit. ** As info, the maxim is “bad facts make bad law.” It means something a little different that what you guys discussed, but your discussion was a good one.

Ben
Ben
7 years ago

does anyone know if the interview with Malcolm and the guy from the book Generous orthodoxy who was Mennonite is available yet? It sounds amazing and I can’t wait to hear it. Additionally is the book on the would be shooter something Malcolm is writing and hasn’t released yet?

Benedict Westenra
Benedict Westenra
7 years ago

You kind of are a 9th grade teacher, assuming 9th graders listen to your podcast.

davewent
davewent
7 years ago

Just finished listening to this episode. Fantastic stuff, right up there with your Seth Godin interview. I especially enjoyed the “Difficult cases make bad law” and I’m thinking of dozens of examples of this. Thanks Malcolm & Tim. Keep them coming!

Stefano
Stefano
7 years ago

Loved the snippet at the beginning with a quick question/mic test, it should be done for every episode as it sets the tone and makes one more willing to be listening

Lisa Perry
Lisa Perry
7 years ago

Another Green World–I was introduced to Eno and this album (cassette, when I had it) in law school. It was perfect. I still think of it and compare other music to it.

brandilynnwonderland
brandilynnwonderland
7 years ago

Lapsang – I mix equal volume of it and salt and grind and make an awesome smokey salt! or make it strong with allspice pimentos, equal sweet and salt and it makes an awesome brine! Random lapsang info!!

Liz Ann Bonnen
Liz Ann Bonnen
7 years ago

‘Uncompromising to the vision. Flexible in the details’ made me totally perk up!

pennyb
pennyb
7 years ago

Really enjoyed the podcast, and especially the strategic nature/intent of the questions. Gladwell sort of detoured on the phase transitions between research and finished product: researching-highlighting-migrating-curating through the hard work of “thinking, organizing, assembling.” He reverted to “transcript” when Tim asked about organizing “notes.” There was a missing step somewhere in his process that I was super interested in — the actual putting it all together. Does he actually COMPOSE around the curated quotations/excerpts from his notes/transcript in the migrated document? Does the document with the migrated excerpts actually become the finished work? Really interesting interview on the process. Reminds me a bit of Paris Review writer series interview, but more nuts and bolts 🙂

Susan
Susan
7 years ago

First time visitor. Would not return after listening to the first five minutes of ads! Why would you put such promotional material up front? Off-putting for this listener.

Carolina
Carolina
7 years ago

Love the notes of the poscasts!, thank you for taking the time to make this available for the users

Anne
Anne
7 years ago

Thanks for the wonderful interview with Malcolm Gladwell. I found Malcolm’s comment about the value of pushing himself past his usual comfort zone to be very inspiring.

I would recommend checking out Adam Lambert- his story and talent are really amazing.

svitlana gaidamachenko
svitlana gaidamachenko
7 years ago

Dear Timothy,

Thank you for another brilliant podcast. I recently discovered your podcast after reading all of your books and finished almost 40 percent of all of your podcast. It is my driving to work and back routine now to spend time with the brilliant people on your podcast:) I have a question that i was trying to find answers to on your site, and specifically on how to write a book? and I mean I have a an idea to similar to your 4 hour chef and 4 hour body book, mainly that it has many different subjects in it. is there a resource or a book that takes a complete novice from an idea to writing a finished book. and I mean copy-writing stuff, specific as to how much can be borrowed from other books or sources, etc. complete idiot guide to writing. Any pointers on that? Much appreciated!!

Rafiul Alam Bhuiyan
Rafiul Alam Bhuiyan
1 year ago

He is a great writer.Thanks for all.