“Please be a traveler, not a tourist. Try new things, meet new people, and look beyond what’s right in front of you.” – Andrew Zimmern
Andrew Zimmern is a world-class chef, television host and producer, writer, and — at the end of the day — teacher. You’ve probably seen his shows Bizarre Foods or Dining with Death. In 2010 and 2013 he was awarded the James Beard Foundation Award, which annually presents awards for excellence in cuisine, culinary writing, and culinary television.
But many people don’t know the earlier chapters in his life. At one point, he was sleeping on the streets, stealing purses, and shooting heroin. In our interview, he shares all. We delve into everything, including his culinary tricks, how he developed his hit TV show, his influences, key turning points in his life, beating addiction, and much more.
This is a powerful interview.
It’s full of tactics for anyone, and it has extra insights for all types of compulsive behavior (and, really, who doesn’t have at least one?). I hope you enjoy it.
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Selected Links from the Episode
- Pick up some Puerh from Living Tea
- Listen to Andrew Zimmern’s podcast, Go Fork Yourself: Website | On iTunes
- Say hello to Andrew on Twitter (@andrewzimmern)
- Explore his excellent website: Andrew Zimmern
- Here’s the 7″ all-use chef’s knife that Andrew uses
Some Highlights with Time Stamps
- What Andrew was inspired by, and who he modeled his show after [09:40]
- Recommendations for those seeking to cultivate an on-air personality [11:50]
- The three herbs or spices that Andrew Zimmern couldn’t live without [19:20]
- The magic of citrus, building flavor contrasts, and how to provide robust flavors [21:20]
- Tips for improving knife skills and cooking skills [27:45]
- How to identify expert chefs [33:38]
- The surprising story of his addiction-filled life [36:15]
- The challenges of helping those suffering from alcoholism or other drug addiction [45:05]
- The positive side of addiction, advice for overcoming it, and how to support others [50:20]
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Great stuff. You also HAVE to get Tony Bourdain on the show. I think you two have a lot in common.
Let him know on Twitter, etc. 🙂
This is really cool. I love the range of topics that you cover and that you go into the not-as-popular topics such as drug addiction.
Thank you for the Living Tea suggestion (www.livingtea.net). I’ve had their rare Puerh teas. They are out of this world.
Best book on addiction = Allen Carr ‘EasyWay to control Alcohol”. I have personally benefitted greatly from this book. It’s a must read to truly understand addiction. I am not affiliated with Allen Carr in any way.
Thank you for sharing your story. Stories heal. Stories change lives. I overcame addiction through the transforming power of story and wrote about it in Transformed by Writing. As you say, there is a positive side to addiction – the strength that comes from getting through to the other side. I wrote an article titled, “Transformed by Writing: A Light Journey in Recovery View detailing the process. See: http://www.recoveryview.com/Articles/TabId/107/ArtMID/657/ArticleID/1314/Transformed-by-Writing-A-Light-Journey.aspx
Beating addiction: first up N.A and A.A have a 1% success rate. They also keep you stuck in the same addictive neural pathways by saying ‘you’re an addict for life’ and keep you talking about your old life over and over.
So 1. Don’t think about, talk about, or visit geographical places, to do with addiction. Get new neural pathways happening.
2. Biochemistry will play a huge role. Protein and vegetables is the diet acknowledged to stabilise neurochemistry the most. Avoid sugar which keeps addictive brain chemistry firing. Learn about certain amino acids, B vitamins inc taurine and choline, and herbs that heal the bodies addictive tendencies. Patrick Holford has written books on this but he’s not the last word. Avena Sativa plugs nicotine receptors for instance. See a Naturopath for support with this.
3. Mindfulness/ body oriented counselling is essential. Avoid cathartic/talking centric therapies that rehash trauma and old neural pathways
4. Breathwork / Chi Kung . You could go a step further and practice holotropic breathing by Stansilav Grof – not suitable if mentally unstable
5. Laugh and relax as much as possible . Smile. Breath. Laugh. Relax. Have fun . Watch funny films all day. Spend time barefoot in nature
6. An extended Wilderness retreat eg with Outward Bound could change you forever
7. Have faith in the innate goodness in life always available – power of positive thinking etc
8. See your addiction as a sacred quest and challenge – like a mythic hero faced with a quest to beat the dragon of darkness and rescue the princess etc..
I like your comments a lot, and they fit very much with what I have come to believe based both on reading and personal experience. Recently the book by Joe Griffin and Ivan Tyrell, called Human Givens, has pulled together a lot of these ideas into a unified perspective for me. They focus on how addiction often resolves spontaneously once people have their needs in various essential areas satisfied. For example, needs for intimacy, for being challenged and stretched in our lives, for security, for meaning, etc. The book Willpower, by Roy Baumeister, is also essential reading, as is another book, Creative Hypnosis, by Roger Strauss. Self hypnosis has a lot of potential, but is much more effective when done “freestyle” than when following fixed scripts.
Rachel: all of your suggestions are fabulous. AA was my last choice (too much GOD) but it did help me. I think it works as a starting point: It does get the isolated alcoholic out of the house and talking to others in our tribe of addicts. Sometimes that’s a necessary first step.
Rachel, there is no long term study or research conducted on long term Alcoholics Anonymous or Narcotics Anonymous success to failure ratios. That 1% Number you throughout was some arbitrary notion that someone fabricated. If I am wrong please show us the documentation.
I have worked in a Treatment center for over 4 years and managed to 50 bed sober living facility for over 5 years and currently provide sober coaching and recovery coaching services today.
Here is the short but truthful bottom line about addiction and recovery. Most people that end up in rehab or NA or AA developed the substance abuse habit psychological addiction and bonafide physical addiction over multiple years in many cases decades.
+ most people completely underestimate the amount of time that it’s going to take to recover from their addiction. it’s a five to ten year and minimum process.
+ many people have the notion that they’re going to a do 90 day treatment, 6 months sober living and a year in 12 step program and put their addiction behind them. they get cocky, and comfortable and think they have it licked.
+ AA and NA Big Book Make no claims about having the answers. 12 step programs are only one component of a comprehensive recovery Strategy.
+ I recommend two other recovery and support groups after the addict or alcoholic have completed the 12 steps 1) A Course in Miracles and smart recovery. Participating in these two support groups have really become a force multiplier in my recovery and life.
Tim, people’s result vary widely depending on their level of commitment, willingness to dig deep to self reflect on their shortcomings and weaknesses. In other words, So many people do not succeed because they don’t spend enough time trying to figure out what they’re doing wrong. They underestimate the time it’s going to take and therefore never achieve long term recovery.
I have spent the last 10 years reverse engineering, and Deconstructing addiction and how and why relapses happen and how to avoid them in the first place.
I am a formerly world and nationally ranked BMX competitor. I was inducted into the American bicycle Associaton BMX Hall of Fame in 1996.
My approach to My addiction rehabilitation and recovery Is and was the same that I would use To land a spot on the mountain bike world championship podium in 1989 – Develop a world-class Strategy, world-class commitment.
Last but not least – I have worked with a minimum of two dozen people who unfortunately did not make it – their dddiction got the best of them.
Working with over 300 Recovering patients in recovery I have developed my Philosophy and fax why addiction is not a bonafide disease. I would go as far as to say that it is not a disease – I make this claim having done over a 10-year study. I have rational and tangible evidence that addiction is not a disease.
I do not argue , or attempt to discredit anyone that does believe the addiction is a disease. Based on their experience if they believe this to be true, then so be it.
Great tips. Beet juice…here I come. Keep up the good work.
Scott Kiloby’s work Natural Rest for Addiction and his treatment center in Palm Springs uses mindfulness and a specific way of working with thought and sensations to dissolve the Velcro that makes them seem real and true. Natural Rest is a way of being with our experience and one of the effects is dropping of addiction and compulsions. http://naturalrestforaddiction.com/
Great topics, both cooking and addiction in one podcasts!
In order to overcome a “lighter” addiction such as online gaming it really helped to see what other people were doing. Consciously noticing that they seemed happier, more productive and fulfilled did it for me.
Additional read for people with compulsive behavior: “Too Perfect by Jeannette Dewyze” It literally helped me overcome all of my compulsive-obsessive behavior traits at once.
Great podcast and love the informal style – I think it brings our real honesty.
Andrew’s is a great story, one that is resonates deeply with myself.
I too am interested in food and have been working on reinventing the common recipe for the last two years – soon to launch on Kickstarter http://www.ninjaheathchef.com.
Keep up the great work Tim 🙂
I used to be addicted to tobacco and I’ve quit. I think the tipping point was: I’ve realized I hate myself smoking, I hate the smell of my breath, my tobacco short wind, and I really want to quit. So I just stopped smoking and immediately come across Allen Carr’s bestseller. The book cleared my mind a lot and I’ve never smoked after that (about 8 years for now). The book really helped me to soften the process, but the real driver was my deep desire to quit.
I also used to be mildly addicted to alcohol and I’ve quit (two times actually). The first time was at my last year at the university. I was in the painful process of procrastinating on starting my diploma for about two months and I’ve suddenly realized there are only two weeks left before the delivery. I’ve stopped drinking beer which always found the way to my dorm, throw away the remaining stuff and suddenly felt extraordinary strong irrational fear. So with a help of good friend I quickly found myself at a psychotherapist specialized in alcoholics. So the tipping point was fear of failure of diploma delivery and subsequent fear caused by the very mild delirium tremens. And I’ve delivered my diploma 😉
I haven’t drink alcohol for a long time since the above episode, but finally I found myself drinking again. It wasn’t all the time as it was in university, but it was like regular Saturday (and sometimes Sunday or Monday) hangover. The tipping point happened this March was I’ve realized that it takes about two days for me to fully recover from all symptoms of hangover and I can’t work productively most of that time. So I started to look for solutions and turned to another Allen Carr’s book which helped me a lot. I don’t drink ever since and fell myself very proud of it.
To summarise in all three cases the tipping point was my strong desire to change the situation caused by external factors or internal dissatisfaction.
Hope that helps you Tim. I love your book and your podcast.
P.S. It would be great if you share your thoughts about depression overcoming in the podcast. Even through a lot of people suffering from depression, most of them do not like to discuss the subject because of public stigma attached to it. I believe you the person who can make a very positive and hopeful podcast episode out of this.
Great to see others that the Allen Carr books helped. They totally changed my perspective and cured me of addition. It is true, as you say, that you must desire the change.
Great podcast and love the informal style – I think it brings out real honesty.
Andrew’s is a great story, one that is resonates deeply with myself.
I too am interested in food and have been working on reinventing the common recipe for the last two years – soon to launch on Kickstarter [Moderator: link removed]
Keep up the great work Tim 🙂
When I was younger I was quite addicted to smoking pot. Would do almost anything to get high every day. Quit cold turkey by removing myself completely from the environment. Moved from Tucson Az to Phoenix Az and hung around and worked with people that didn’t go anywhere near the stuff. I think the #1 way to cure any addiction is to remove yourself completely from your addictions “environment”…
DBT therapy should definitely be explored more. Mindfulness and many other DBT skills work wonders for addiction.
Former alcoholic here.
25 years old, tech founder, live in sf, and am 15 months clean.
I consider my life to cut into two stages: Drunk Sam and Sober Sam. It’s as if I had blurred vision before and had lasik. The difference is night vs day.
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One thing that I was scared of that most drunks are nervous about us how I’ll meet new people and women while sober. I was shocked at how much easier meeting women was when I was sober.
I really enjoyed this interview and Bizarre Foods and Andrew Zimmern are one of my favorite shows and hosts. Awesome to hear about Andrew turning his life around. Very inspiring.
My best friend of 42yrs, Khalil Rafati of Malibu California had over come heroin addiction while overdosing 2 times only to literally go from rags to riches on hard work and his new addiction to eating healthy. He now owns 4 organic juice stores in Malibu and surrounding areas in California named SunLife Organics. He is truly an inspiration for all that meet him. If you are in town, please stop by and tell him Dr. Ted sent you.
Addiction is 100% mental (my experience is with alcohol and nicotine – I still drink coffee…) and is easily fixed. You do not need willpower and the cure is permanent and immediate. All you need to do is read the book (following the directions at the beginning of the book). I discovered this book knowing i wasn’t in control but didn’t understand addiction. Half way through the book my addiction to alcohol left me. Poof, gone. True story. Allen Carr – EasyWay to control alcohol. He has a book on smoking as well. Works the same way. I am not associated with Allen Carr organization, just a guy that found a better way. Trust me on this one. The ultimate mind hack!
Thank you so much for these wonderful podcasts. I am learning so much and listening to them while on the elliptical makes the time go so much faster. I wish I could be one of those who can read while working out but I have a fear of falling off. I was supposed to improve on mindfulness this year so by right I should not be listening to anything while working out.. hmmm… not sure what I can do about this.
As a bonus, can I also say (in a totally non- creepy way!) your voice is very sexy – especially when you speak in Japanese. 🙂
That was inspiring, great stuff
Hate to keep blowing up your spot, but your material and content is so akin to my daily life. You have to understand, living in Alaska – I am not privy to world-class discussions or even Main Street discussions.
I won’t get into the nasty details here, yet I too almost didn’t survive the war. And believe me, it’s a fucking war. War for the very fabric of being. Anyone that has not been addicted to Heroin or heavy-duty pain killers, cannot fathom what it’s like to live in the trenches. It’s the very essence of self-indulgence, hunger and greed – where the body, mind and soul become mutually bankrupt.
After roughly a 4-5 year battle, I came out of the water and stepped on to the wet pavement. Worst of the worst. Death bed. Oddest were better to die in the trenches. From pro baseball prospect to gutter town, black tar indulgence with the most suspect of company. Utterly sad and dark. The blackest shades.
There are many components one must consider with regards to addiction and recovery. There is no static framework. Yet, there are some keys that increase the probability of success. First off, if the opiate addict has a few years under his/her belt – it’s a must to quarantine that individual for a lengthy period of time, the probability of self-recovery without being sequestered is about zero.
For me, once I had been isolated for enough time, I could at the very least begin to explore the dark recesses. Now, there’s nothing quite like withdrawal from opiates, for 30 days and 30 nights there is incredible torture, both physical and mental. Again, there is no compare. Every body part aches with ever incessant pain pounding and creeping up the back. Legs, arms ache. Stomach upside. And that’s the easy part – the worst part is the mental anguish. It’s as if, all the color and goodness has been drained from your everything and all that’s let is despair and depression. Not easy for a gentlemen to make progress here – yet there is progress to be made.
And that brings me to my wrap up (gotta get back to work). The drug addiction is merely a symptom for a much larger issue that lies underneath the iceberg. For me, it was a lifetime of insecurity and dishonesty. I wanted to be somebody and things didn’t work out that way. I was attached to the external world, lusting after the result and the ego’s return – rather than incremental quality and exaltation of honest, sincere quality of expression. I learned things just so I could appear smart to the others. I lived to warp reality to suit my misperceptions.
And all of a sudden one day, it hit me like a ton of bricks. The Buddhists call it a Satori. I remember it as if it were yesterday. The one KEY that changed everything for me, forever is this:
We assemble this production. We conjure up our reality. We warp our narrative by in our insecurities, therefore we alter reality based upon our perceived “un-wholeness”. And…….in a sudden flash. I realized we are already whole and this negative self speak is mere illusion and products of misperception. In those moments of contemplation, it was though the word stop and shattered, everything from there on out changed. I then build upon that foundation. And now here I am, ten years later – with unimaginable riches beyond my wildest dreams. I wouldn’t change a single nightmare from my past, they are gifts…..they always are……The real change comes in shifting the assemblege point.
Sorry folks, like Waylon…..I am a rambling man.
oh, the story is so powerful! can’t think of anything else now… and such a pity this episode is so short! please do the second part 🙂
thank you so much for all the amazing work you do, Tim!
Greetings from Switzerland,
Tatyana
Good episode!
Cautionary tales like these can have a strong reprimanding effect on behavior. Very important for obsessive personalities.
What people in those dark places might need the most, is a model that shows what’s possible.
Tim: Why not have John Romaniello on the show?
He’s fun! Discussing something like Intermittent fasting can give perspective and encourage people to self-experiment more.
*Really looking forward to something exercise- or physical performance related also.
*Why not feature a top performer of some fringe competitive skill, just to showcase the similarity and overlap in operating systems?
Archery? Skateboarder? Marksman? Swimmer?
Or even better….. A fighter? That’d be so exciting!
Just a warning for other readers:
*Addiction is not limited to illicit drugs or alcohol.
Modafinil used to be my vice. Nearly destroyed me.
Lots and lots of cocaine.
I over came the addiction by getting surgery where I was hurting and then moving to a place where the surfing and fishing are great.
I was doing tons of blow nonstop and smoking cigs. I think that is when it becomes dangerous because I read an article that coke and cigs dont mix well.
I learned to completely clean coke that was way better because even if it looks pure there still might be trace elements of chemicals messing up the high
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O and I am a big fan. Keep up the good work 🙂
Substitute the addiction with a healthy addiction, redirect the energy, you can’t stop it but you can redirect it !
I feel addictions are easy to get rid of when there is a positive why to move towards.
As well as a basic understanding of addiction psychology.
Great interview! Very insightful. I always thought that people with an addiction problem are self medicating the best way they know how and lecturing them is counterproductive. Looking forward to part 1.
Hello again, Artifical sweeteners come in various, hidden guises-i’m talking aspartame etc. Totally destructive neurotoxin damaging brain and nervous system-will take you 180degrees away from healing mind and body from addiction. Theres a TON of info online, although if you’re avoiding processed foods you won’t take it by accident. Try the 30 day challenge without it and see how good you feel (moderator what was wrong with my previous comment about this? 🙂 PS VERY VERY grateful to see Human Givens book mentioned-it turned psychologists and psychiatrists on their head much like Tims books changed people 🙂 PLEASE read it 🙂
If I recommend a book on a thread, I try and pick one up from the same thread. Reading Human Givens now thanks to you. Very good book!
Dear Tim
I’m writing you from Greece.
I read 4hw and can’t really find
an easy way for “automatition”
for gr standards. In 50 years maybe,
But I don’t give up. I’m trying to
keep it simple as far as the principles,
of yours and came up with a plan
ASAP.
Here in Thessaloniki, the 2nd bigger
city in Greece, witch is famous for the
soccer team called PAOK, and the sweet
pie called BUGATSA , there is a person
hardworker and low profile, Konstantinos
Garelis with apexartisi.gr who is dedicate
his life in your addiction free fight.
Of course you will know about Mannesh Sethi
With his Pavlok there in USA.
Thanks for listening
(sorry for my English)
Lefteris Kosmidis
Really enjoyed the relaxed honesty in the video. Reaching 60 learning the talent of harnessing social media to creative thinking with an outcome of a making a life can feel elusive (old guys do it slowly) so it was great to get an insight into how its done
This article is very inspiring. It is a story that could be a proof that a rag could turn into rich out of hard work.
This story also tells us that addiction has a positive side. Instead of being addicted to something that could harm you and the people around you, we have to look for something new and try new things that would make a positive difference not only to ourselves but also to the people around us.
I was going to skip this podcast. Was thinking “yeah, a chef?”. Glad I didn’t – great interview. And we have a lemon tree!
Are you able to share links to podcasts where you have been interviewed? Would be just as interesting to your followers.
Patrick Holford is a UK doctor with a number of titles, and he’s written one solely on using nutrition to cure it. Physiology is the primary key-the mind just follows what the body is doing. There are irritating ommisions and superficial brushoffs in his treatment of the subject but some valuable insights for fufilling the needs of the body biochemically to break the cycle of addiction – this includes non-substance abuse addictions like gambling I might add. Including on how studies have reliable CURED all withdrawals and cravings by providing the brain with certain precursors. In Israel opiate withdrawal was completed in a couple of hours using mega (MEGA) doses of Vitamin C
Loved the shout out for Pu’er! If you ever get a chance to get it straight from the source, most Pu’er comes from Fujian, right across the strait from Taiwan. It seems like all of the mountains there are terraced for tea and you pretty much can’t get a bad Pu’er when you’re there. They grow tobacco there too. I don’t even smoke but thought I’d try some since it’s local and it was remarkably smooth.
I think many of us can relate to Andrews path with addiction and possibly also self treatment of mental illness. I personally have witnessed both through my aunt. What is so incredibly frustrating , is that even when one reaches out for help, such as Andrew did, how EXTEMELY DIFFICULT it is to get intensive outpatient/ inpatient treatment unless they are threatening to harm themselves or others, This leads to often the wrong meds being prescribed by their PCP, and/ or abuse of drugs and alcohol to self treat the pain. A broken system. We then also have the diagnosis of addiction and / or mental illness, both which are never cured. Continued success to Andrew and his family, he has a genuine and kind manner. Wishing only the best and appreciate the honesty. A wonderful example of beating the odds, but also appreciating that it takes continued awareness and work every day to stay in that success story.
Hi everybody,
So about overcoming addiction:
As I was lead singer in a rock band I started using heroin. I overdosed after week long bender following the death of my father.
I was in hospital and nurses and doctors at first glanced at me as the typical junkie.
From morning to evening every hour friends dropped in telling me I should never do this again.
I saw the change in people’s eyes and found that how good my friends made me feel was way better than any drug could. (Something my body disagreed with after three days.) But with my rule: I’m allowed to say “I’m clean” after the years I’ve been using drugs have equally last without drugs.
It took me 8 years until I finally could say “I’m clean” (It would have been seven if I hadn’t relapsed after one year.)
Believe in a future without it and you will reach it.
All my best to the ones who are suffering right now.
Take care and don’t let your own mind fool you into the “but I did so well the last week(s), month(s), year(s)”
You’re brain is able to relearn the time before the drugs if you give it time.
Good luck
Joel
Please consider providing transcripts of these videos. I want to watch them all, but I can’t! I’d love to have the option to quickly skim through pages when I don’t have an hour. There are so many I want to go back to, and I fear I’ll never get the chance. I would love to do the job if you want.
Transcript was a bit harder to find than the others. Here it is for others. https://tim.blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/40-andrew-zimmern.pdf
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Loving the variety of these podcasts – keep it up!
You’d benefit from recording you and your Skype interviewees on separate channels (maybe you’ve worked this out already) – as it is you and Andrew are about 3 volume levels apart. I don’t know what your set up is, but if you Google “record Skype conversations on 2 separate channels” you should find something.
Hi Tim,
You should definitely interview Dan Harris on meditation. [Moderator: link removed.] Would love to
hear a dialogue on meditation between the two of you.
Thanks for listening!
LarryI
I simply love the 4 hour-books! When can I find “4 hour chef” with translation? I’ve been waiting for the book translated into swedish, but it feels like I’m waiting for no reason?
Hi Tim, very interesting story of Andrew Zimmern, with effort and courage has managed to get out of their addiction problems. These people are a mirror in which we can reflect ourselves and learn from them. I’m from Spain, this story reminds me of our prestigious chef Ferran Adria, surely you know it? His youth was also a little crazy, but knew out and become one of the best chefs in the world !!
Congratulations for the post Tim, excellent !!
pleasure
NeyLo2011
Hi there, I keep receiving ‘Confirmation from Tim Ferriss, author of The 4-Hour Workweek’ emails even though I’ve only signed up once a long time ago. I assume this is some automated error. On the email it says to ‘reply to Tim, please do so in the blog comments’, I am hoping this will do just fine here…
FYI…just rcvd a “congrats for signing up” email from you, but my original sign-up was back in July 2014.
What an inspiring man, I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this.
Especially the part when he goes deep into explaining the versatile nature of chili, lemon, and shallots — this is so important for people who are new to cooking and want to get off to a good start.
You can tell Andrew has true passion for what he does, it’s contagious.
Can’t wait for part 2!
Loved your interview with Andrew Zimmern, but I was disappointed that I couldn’t find part two. I assume that you both got busy, but I hope I can hear you two again soon.
Also, Tim – thank you for sharing your knowledge, curiosity, and being an inspiration for all of us who work to make the best of ourselves.
I’m relatively late to listen to this episode and am an active listener, so finding this one was a treat since I have been touched by addiction, live in Minnesota, and work in the addiction field outside of my startup. 5 years ago, my older brother died of an accidental Heroin overdose, which came just two years after he began abusing his pain medication from two small back surgeries. It fuckin’ sucks. Andrew’s tale of when he realized that he needed help only after his last relationships were gone is a common one, but one that so many people miss or don’t get to and end up continuing downward. Unfortunately, our family wasn’t strong enough to let our brother go when we could have, but it’s nothing to regret, rather educate other families that don’t know any better either, perhaps. Anyway, if anyone out there (including you, Tim) has an interest in diving deeper into addiction, I’d be happy to chat. Not a promo, but hopefully a resource for anyone struggling out there.
Addiction has had a long history in my family. What helped my sibling overcome his addiction was an increased awareness of his spirituality AND to see himself through the eyes of nonjudgment – through his relationships within our family…. No simple feat beating addiction
Did you ever get around to doing a part 2 with Andrew? If not, is that still something you’re planning on doing? You’re usually pretty good at doing a part 2 when you say you’re to do a part 2. Which is why it’s weird that it’s been 2+ years and still no part 2.